You use /s but that is the double standard I always thought of. That and how it seemed odd that they wanted us to be responsible for babysitting each other.
Sorry this has got me a little heated bc this kinda shit happened to me all the time in school and it sucks to know it’s still an issue.
I’m autistic, so grain of salt, but I’ve been specifically advised to do something that feels like bullying to me by someone with a degree early child development. I think the difference is that I’m unlikely to take it too far, but maybe they were just a radical and I absolutely should not be doing this. What do you guys think:
After a 3-5 year old kid goes to the bathroom, ask if they washed their hands, and if they say no, you make a grossed out face and say “eeeewww, that’s dirty. You need to do that before we can play together.”
It’s obviously a more constructive type of “bullying” than is standard, and you’re supposed to pair it with exaggerated relief and excitement to play as soon as they’ve washed their hands, so the last impression in the kid’s head isn’t rejection, but it still feels mildly iffy to me. I’m fucking terrible with kids though, so I don’t trust my own instincts.
I don’t think it’s bullying, because bullying involves tormenting them - finding what they react negatively to, and pushing on that. Here, you’re letting them know that there’s something you need them to do before you’re comfortable playing with them. You might think of it as modelling how to protect your own bodily autonomy!
For me, when my kids were going through that, I’d say something like “Ack! Don’t touch me with poo hands! Go wash first, then you can climb on me!” It’d generally get a giggle, then they’d go finish washing up. You’ll want to pay attention to their reaction whatever you do, but if you make it clear they’re still welcome to play, I don’t see how it could be bullying.
Oh, it works… It turns the group against the kid. They may or may not attempt to police the behavior, but they won’t do it effectively. They will resent the kid though
The kid probably gets a kick out of making the whole class stay. Punishment needs to exclude them, like that’s the very nature of punishment.
From what I understand from my experience, the philosophy is that by pissing off the other kids they will call out the shitty kid when they act out.
Of course, this has never worked a single time in human history, but schools keep fucking doing it for some reason.
It doesn’t work because bullying is punished by the school. How are they supposed to teach their peers valuable lessons. /s
You use /s but that is the double standard I always thought of. That and how it seemed odd that they wanted us to be responsible for babysitting each other.
Sorry this has got me a little heated bc this kinda shit happened to me all the time in school and it sucks to know it’s still an issue.
I’m autistic, so grain of salt, but I’ve been specifically advised to do something that feels like bullying to me by someone with a degree early child development. I think the difference is that I’m unlikely to take it too far, but maybe they were just a radical and I absolutely should not be doing this. What do you guys think:
After a 3-5 year old kid goes to the bathroom, ask if they washed their hands, and if they say no, you make a grossed out face and say “eeeewww, that’s dirty. You need to do that before we can play together.”
It’s obviously a more constructive type of “bullying” than is standard, and you’re supposed to pair it with exaggerated relief and excitement to play as soon as they’ve washed their hands, so the last impression in the kid’s head isn’t rejection, but it still feels mildly iffy to me. I’m fucking terrible with kids though, so I don’t trust my own instincts.
I don’t think it’s bullying, because bullying involves tormenting them - finding what they react negatively to, and pushing on that. Here, you’re letting them know that there’s something you need them to do before you’re comfortable playing with them. You might think of it as modelling how to protect your own bodily autonomy!
For me, when my kids were going through that, I’d say something like “Ack! Don’t touch me with poo hands! Go wash first, then you can climb on me!” It’d generally get a giggle, then they’d go finish washing up. You’ll want to pay attention to their reaction whatever you do, but if you make it clear they’re still welcome to play, I don’t see how it could be bullying.
It works in military settings, where you are expected to work as you team and keep an eye on your colleagues. Not so much in a school.
You’re also talking about about people who are at least legally adults. 18 is a low bar until you compare it to 10.
That and if you piss off everyone in your unit you’ll catch the ole sock full of butter
Oh, it works… It turns the group against the kid. They may or may not attempt to police the behavior, but they won’t do it effectively. They will resent the kid though
And isolated kids are famous for being obedient