• SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    10 months ago

    Winter offensive is very likely because the Grande Armée is getting French winter gear and Russians are getting… whatever they get, so they’ll probably freeze.

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    Russians are getting… whatever they get, so they’ll probably freeze

    YES, Russia, fucking RUSSIA, the fucking BIG BEAR, THE FUCKING COUNTRY WHERE THE MOST COLD CITY IS, DOESN’T HAVE EQUIPMENT FOR THE WINTER

    LIKE, they even remember that the war already passed a winter?

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    10 months ago

    Setting aside the question of winter gear (as comrades have already highlighted it), and even setting aside the murderous masturbatory fantasy of war-as-videogame (what they describe is essentially CoD or Ghost Recon kind of game, with gigachad protagonist having hilarious over the top advantage over poorly programmed NPCs).

    I want to focus a little on the example chosen for comparison - Predator movie. Because it is a very peculiar choice. What do we see in the movie? First we see a team of these stereotypical Hollywood gigachad “operators” tear through a gang of Hollywood “rebels” in an absurdly one-sided tussle. Can’t even call it a skirmish. The yanks have better gear, better physique, better everything, exactly as what the idiot in the image imagines yankee troops to be. And then the alien turns it upside down on them, by having better physique, better tech, etc. And it’s once again not a battle, nor a fight, the alien is just hiding in the trees like a rat to occasionally pop a yank with that absurd gun of his. While invisible. And when Arnie accidentally circumvents the predator’s tech - it screeches in impotent rage and fires blindly into the jungle, because its FPS sim got disturbed. Just as the yanks were firing blindly into the jungle earlier, for the same reason.

    So what’s the point of this rant? Well, I almost want to see those “SOF teams” try to pull their yankee shit, only to discover what “artillery barrage” means and what “peer equipment” means. But of course, useless removed-s like in the op image won’t get the message and will simply continue writing similar masturbatory fanfics.

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      10 months ago

      Seriously. I recently read a paper somebody linked here which went over Russian artillery doctrine. Long and the short is that the Russians can get effective artillery fires on a target inside of three minutes under optimal conditions, particularly when using UAVs for spotting. They’ve also gotten into the habit of attaching mortars to infantry units and forming them up into mortar teams ad hoc, giving such units some quite potent local indirect fire support.

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    10 months ago

    Ignoring the stupid and outright murderously insane shit in that post…

    Are they not aware that Ukrainian men were also conscripted? Ukraine quite literally locked down the borders and wouldn’t let men out and said “go protect the homeland!”

    I understand the conscripts thing is meant to he demoralizing or whatever like “you don’t even want this war! Give up!” but that fails when your own country is also conscripting and begging for people from around the world to come help fight Russia. This wasn’t exactly kept a secret either, so it’s just weird seeing it used in this way.

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      Fascist blocking squads were quite violent with those they deemed cowards trying to desert…

      At least Russians who were drafted actually have a sane chance of survival…getting “drafted” by Ukronazis is a death sentence…

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    10 months ago

    Positing that bad terrain, darkness and harsh climate will somehow help the people trying to push forward is incredible.

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    I can picture it now:

    EUROPEANS

    tired of being cold this winter because the US turned off your gas supply?

    fight in Ukraine where the fire is always on and fresh warming mead flows all night long.

    €3,400/month (minus expenses)

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    alright am I crazy or is this not the exact same thing these people were saying last year as winter was approaching?

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      10 months ago

      That’s what’s also confusing me. Like, we’ve already gone through winter of this war so what makes this year different? The Russians survived then and will do the same now so I don’t know what they’re blabbing about.

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        Most liberals believe history began in 2022. This one happens to be an advanced liberal who believes history started in the summer of 2023

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    10 months ago

    this has to be fake. are there really people who don’t know the history of armies invading Russia in the winter?

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      I don’t know much about what happened during the Winter War (Soviet Union v. Finland) but people seem to cite it as an example of Russia somehow failing. With Finland now in NATO they seem optimistic that this is going to be Winter War 2 Electric Boogaloo.

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        In the winter war, Russia got more than what they demanded from Finland and they were forced to sign the treaty for neutrality but I guess they joined Hitler’s group soon.

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          Thank you for telling me this. The only thing I really knew about the war was this stupid meme I saw years ago:

          Or at least one that was very similar. Just showing the Wikipedia information to essentially state how weak the Big Bad USSR was fighting against Little Baby Cutie Patootie Finland. I literally had to look up “Winter War meme” to find this and the amount of others with a similar sentiment is embarrassing as hell.

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            My aunt went to Finland and she says its common knowledge there that 30% of Finnish men 18-25 died in the Winter War. The USSR offered to trade land to make a buffer zone for Leningrad and Finland said no and they lost that great a percentage of their population as well as losing territory. While Soviet casualties were likely higher being on the offensive, they were proportionately nothing to the Soviets and a major generational trauma for the Finns. But flying Finnish White Death orc shooter 7 billion dead, amirite?

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    Russians are getting… whatever they get,

    Buddy, Russia is blowing up previously never-exploded Britbong tanks and basically disassembling NATO artillery before it even launches, often simply by having weapons that work.

    The Transatlantic Empire’s most effective weapons have proven, like always, to be terrorism and targeted political assassinations. The U.S. is as paper a fucking tiger now as it was when chairman Mao said it.

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        Too many folk here in Amerika “know” more about what’s happening in Ukraine than what’s happening in their own damn neighborhoods.

        An addict shoots up. A mugger creates a victim. A cop shoots a black child. A homeless man freezes to death. A drunk beats his wife. Everyone starves and struggles against the tremendous weight of debt. Buildings and streets continue to erode ever further, unmolested by the tyranny of public investment. All within the shadow of billowing Ukrainian and Amerikan flags planted on some “apolitical” petit-bourgeois fucker’s perfectly mowed lawn. 🇺🇦 🇺🇸

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    Why wouldn’t the Russians be prepared? Look at where they live, do they not think Russian soldiers are prepared for fucking winter?

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      Yea think Russia is a tropical climate or something 😅.

      Its just usual armchair general discourse, they think they are big brain because they think about the weather.

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      Was gonna say ah yes the Russian army, famously I’ll equipped for winter defenses.

      Ukraine already complaining that Russia is cheating by using at Mines on their tanks, I’m sure covering them in snow will make it easier.

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    I wonder what war looks like in their heads. Is it a fps shooter? A HOI campaign perhaps? Do they seriously believe soldiers just charge at each other?

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      In this particular case I’d say FPS or TPS. You can guess HOI foos by their fart-sniffing “strategic analysis”

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        As someone who occasionally plays Advance Wars competitively, anyone who’s played a map with snow knows how much it stops offensives. These people are below a children’s strategy game at this point.

        EDIT: These people don’t even know that Putin will just activate his CO power and make all the Ukranian units lose 2 hp and lose half their movement due to the snow.

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      It may be related to what space exploration looks like in their heads.

      A vehicle lands on a desolate planet, serenaded by LE EPIC HANS ZIMMER music, and amid the BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM, humans transcend and become godlike and win the science victory. Roll credits. so-true