Why? They’re HR and hiring managers, not IT specialists.
Try seeing it from HR’s perspective. They post a job and get +200 applications. The success criteria is not hiring the best candidate, it’s hiring a suitable candidate. Given that premise, why would you read through all 200 applications, when there’s someone with a nice website and cool sounding software, who promise that their product can sort through the resumes and only pick the relevant ones for you?
Heck, I’m definitely going to be looking for an ATS testing site for my CV now. It really doesn’t matter what we think of it. If you want to communicate you’ll have to do it in a way that your recipient will understand, and if my recipient is a PoS software that can’t read PDFs, then writing my CV in latex is probably not the most effective way to communicate.
You can be outraged all you’d like, but if you choose to, then we’re not really competing for the same jobs.
I get that they’re busy, but it’s their problem, not mine.
So? What are you going to do about it? They’re making it your problem, and you can comply or not get hired.
IDK about you, but I’ve got a family to feed, car payments to make, a mortgage, and no self-esteem. It’s clearly hyperbole, but if I have to go down on a clown to make it easier to meet my income requirements, then I’m not gay but I’ll still be looking for some tictacs.
Not setting standards for yourself is holding you back. I see people with your attitude get underpaid, passed over for deserved promotions, and get mistreated. You are enabling shitty companies to stay shitty.
It IS sad, and shitty, that companies treat people like trash. But when you’re on your third layoff in 18 months for reasons completely out of your control, clown knob starts looking mighty appetising. Not everyone gets to live the same reality you do.
Tbf I’ve done that with first joblistings. Like “ask questions that a suitable candidate for the following joblisting should answer in a job application”. And then pasting my cover letters asking for relevancy and phrasing help. Maybe I should try for ATS optimization.
Definitive red flag if that is their supposed understanding of computers
Why? They’re HR and hiring managers, not IT specialists.
Try seeing it from HR’s perspective. They post a job and get +200 applications. The success criteria is not hiring the best candidate, it’s hiring a suitable candidate. Given that premise, why would you read through all 200 applications, when there’s someone with a nice website and cool sounding software, who promise that their product can sort through the resumes and only pick the relevant ones for you?
Heck, I’m definitely going to be looking for an ATS testing site for my CV now. It really doesn’t matter what we think of it. If you want to communicate you’ll have to do it in a way that your recipient will understand, and if my recipient is a PoS software that can’t read PDFs, then writing my CV in latex is probably not the most effective way to communicate.
“we can’t afford ATS software that can read PDFs”
okay, can you afford to pay me a proper wage??
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You can be outraged all you’d like, but if you choose to, then we’re not really competing for the same jobs.
So? What are you going to do about it? They’re making it your problem, and you can comply or not get hired.
IDK about you, but I’ve got a family to feed, car payments to make, a mortgage, and no self-esteem. It’s clearly hyperbole, but if I have to go down on a clown to make it easier to meet my income requirements, then I’m not gay but I’ll still be looking for some tictacs.
Not setting standards for yourself is holding you back. I see people with your attitude get underpaid, passed over for deserved promotions, and get mistreated. You are enabling shitty companies to stay shitty.
It’s sad.
It IS sad, and shitty, that companies treat people like trash. But when you’re on your third layoff in 18 months for reasons completely out of your control, clown knob starts looking mighty appetising. Not everyone gets to live the same reality you do.
K, now what.
Now you get it. That was what I was trying to say. They’re just trying to look like they’re doing enough to get paid.
The savvy ones are probably copy pasting entire resumes into chat gpt and then asking if they’re a good candidate.
Tbf I’ve done that with first joblistings. Like “ask questions that a suitable candidate for the following joblisting should answer in a job application”. And then pasting my cover letters asking for relevancy and phrasing help. Maybe I should try for ATS optimization.