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Looks like protests have erupted since this happened, with some protest signs are in english, and people are getting arrested too. Does anyone know what going on with that?
Does anyone know what going on with that?
Not much. I found numbers from 55 to 400 arrested country-wide in two days. They’ll get 20 days and a fine at the very worst. I think you can surmise how widespread and consequential these protests are. As I saw someone say on TG Navalny’s hamsters remaining in the country can probably be caught on one camera shot from a drone if they were in one place.
So a small group going feral for Western propaganda? Very cool…
Sounds like a spontaneous opportunistic NED/CIA/western-billionaire-NGO colour revolution attempt to me.
That was my immediate thought too. The English signs threw me off the most, it’s not like they need to reach a wider audience so what gives? It’s very fishy…
English signs can mean two things:
- They want “the international community” (
) to notice them and do something. - It is a lot easier to get the guys in Langley to approve your slogans when you don’t try to make them read a foreign language.
I reckon that neither is going to convince any significant number of Russians of anything other than the fact that these libs are making fools of themselves.
- They want “the international community” (
Signs in English used to be quite widespread in such gatherings. Same with pro-EU “protests” in Georgia, Armenia and back in 2014 in Ukraine.
Yeah and the smell of money was always following them right to the Washington.
No figure better encapsulates Western liberal propaganda against Russia.
Notice the complete absence of discussion of any other oppositions figures or forces (controlled or otherwise) within Russia, along with the attendant impression that he is supposed to be far more popular than he actually is.
Note the conspiracy of silence regarding his past and actual political ideology.
That being said, whatever the circumstances of his death, it’s a nationalist government killing a fascist. Oh well.
it’s a nationalist government killing a fascist.
If they wanted the idiot dead, he’d be dead long before.
I don’t really think this is valid reasoning tbh. Governments can kill people at a whim, but frequently do not because they would rather they die over time through conditions such as prisons. There are other factors they consider apart from simply wanting him dead. They don’t need to have killed his directly. It could simply be the result of mental and physical health issues due to his imprisonment. Life expectancy in prisons is markedly lower for a reason.
I’ve seen takes that he was killed by the West to blame Putin, but I haven’t really seen any actual hard evidence for this
Western governments want Assange dead. So by that logic he’d be dead long before now. He’s not, but I’m not about to conclude that the US gov doesn’t want Assange in an anonymous ditch. There are plenty of revolutionaries being let to rot in US prisons from the previous decades. It’s just killing them in slow motion.
At the end of the day we don’t have objective info to allow us to conclude one way or another as to exactly why he’s dead, and both the West and Russia are obviously deeply biased sources.
Western media are really bad at this. Whenever they are dealing with political struggles in countries outside their Aryan garden, they immediately reduce everything down to a simple binary of pro-western/pro-democracy/anti-corruption Vs. pro-BadCountry/authoritarian/corrupt.
Yeah it’s also crazy when you realize instinctual it is. Like I don’t think all the dolts at the Guardian pumping out ink for the ink god really reflectively think ‘we have to craft this manichean narrative for the sake of liberalism’ given that’s not actually how ideology generally works. I have no doubt (actually, I know from personal experience) that it you push narrative which don’t conform you will sometimes get responses which straight-up make no reference to the truth of the matter but explicitly reject what youre saying because its politically inconvenient. That being said, it is fascinating and disturbing of reflexive and instinctual these kinds of responses are in general culture, and how little most people in liberal societies are either willing or capable of critically analyzing and evaluating this kind of stuff. Like they could just read what Putin says to get a more accurate account of the Russian state’s motivations for their actions.
The libs of mastodon are having a field day with this one, crying about how he was such a hero despite knowing fuck-all about anything.
Rest in piss, fascist fuck.
Hoo boy, brace yourself
New gender inclusive bathroom
He will not be missed RIP BOZO
Why though?
Racist US backed stooge who got dooped into ending up in a Russian prison lol. IIRC he was advised to return to Russia to be sone kinda martyr by his handlers.
How is he U.S backed, and how does he have a handler (really, no mass appeal)
Can you explain (I’m out of the loop)?
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yeah i never understood why he went back. he got out, he could’ve just shut up and lived in the west into old age.
The crabs will rave today
The only thing the Western media portrayed him as was as an opponent of Putin. His nationalist tendencies were unknown to Western libs.
As so was his irrelevancy in the general landscape of Russian politics.
Never fails to take me out when I hear know-nothing burgers talking about “if there were an election he’d have beat putler 2:1” and I’m just fighting the urge to start smirking like “oh, so the same margins that clinton was supposed to beat trump by right?”
Wonders of fake news. I had to explain to my gf today that he was in fact not the only opposition to Putin.
In the minds of western libs, nations in what the west calls “the jungle” doesn’t have a fully-fledged political system with differing ideologies and interests based in material conditions. Instead they just have a simple pro-democracy/pro-western Vs. pro-BadCountry/authoritarian divide.
Libs framed him as a russian MLK 😅
civil whites leader
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a sad day for racists everywhere
He just died? Wow. I didn’t know that. You are telling me now for the first time. He led an amazing life. What else can you say. Whether you agreed or not, he was an amazing wan who led an amazing life. I am actually sad to hear that. I am sad to hear that.
Blue Jean baby~
Goodbye Mr navalny and hello Mr guaido
Guyadov
Ivan Guyadov elected as interim president of Russia
Oh no
Anyway
Ukrainians celebrating lmao
rare ukrain w
Can we even say the one and only ukrain w?
no, we cant
Ukrainians aren’t wrong to celebrate. Navalny would’ve conducted total war against Ukraine if he somehow came into power.
Definitely and im sure it was intended.
The way i see it, the plan was to keep building the war capabilities of Ukraine while trying to destabilize Russia with fascists like Navalny, fascists are very easy to manipulate and predict. Having fascists factions in Russia would’ve inevitably led to an internal conflict because of the huge cultural diversity in Russia. A more armed Ukraine wouldve seized the chance with the backing of NATO.
Needless to say, the SMO caught the west by surprise and, with how its going, will end up ruining whatever they had planned in the region.
I was confused for a second, then remembered he allegedly supported the Crimea affair
World News having the expected meltdown. No early weekend for people working in Langley.
Shoutout to the people on reddit who ‘vividly remember the day he was poisoned’ and to those saying he would be the Russian Mandela, bringing peace and justice to Russia.
I still can’t believe he’s gone, he was such an inspiration for western media
Maybe Putin killed him, maybe he didn’t. But wasn’t he in jail for 2 years? Why wait so long for a hit?
It’s not just the ~300 days in prison. It’s not like it was hard to kill him at any point prior. Not to mention the dumb fuck did more to die himself with that “poisoning”(probably an OD).
Honestly, I don’t see a single reason why Putin would do it. The situation was perfect for him as it was - Navalny was largely forgotten and had no bearing on anything. If anything, he won’t appreciate a minor shitstorm on the Internet a month before the elections.
But hey, “great” people can’t just die of health issues, it’s always someone!
I think the simplest explanation is that Russian prisons, like most other prisons, are simply bad for your health in general, especially if it is weakened by an OD/poisoning/whatever. It would make more sense for the yanks to kill him than it would for Putin (who would have gained more from people simply forgetting about him), although it seems lightly implausible (but not impossible) that they infiltrated a Siberian penal colony just to kill a guy so he could be used as a martyr.
although it seems lightly implausible (but not impossible) that they infiltrated a Siberian penal colony just to kill a guy so he could be used as a martyr.
Well, they wouldn’t have to, really. It’s not that hard to pay a crooked prison guard these days. But yeah, my money’s on a prison beyond the polar circle being bad for you, especially when you’re not that healthy to begin with, as well.
I believe he had issues throughout his captivity. Sickness, hunger strike, that kind of stuff. I don’t think he got a five star hotel treatment either and eventually your health becomes at several risk. Or maybe Putin just killed him.
Blairite labour are all posting their little eulogies about him, claiming that he was a hero of democracy. But, like, Navalny was a Neo-Nazi he wasn’t gonna democratise shit. Like, why hitch your wagon to one of the Russian politicians more reactionary than Putin, especially now he’s dead?
NATO monkey brain short circuits to pitting nazis against Russia. Any other logic or consideration is immediately hurled out of the window.
Because when they say “democratise”, they actually mean “privatise everything and start selling out to international financial capital”. Don’t forget: nazis were a tool of the bourgeoisie to clamp down on proletariat and ensure private profits
I understand why the liberals disingenuously label live Nazis as freedom fighters, like, they do it so often that at this point I wonder if it’s an involuntary reflex for them to cheer when they see a swastika.
I don’t understand why they’re still doing it now he’s dead and therefore no longer any use to them.
A dead martyr is more useful than a live one, sometimes
