It wouldn’t hurt to bring this up the next time someone tells you Trump is an anti-war candidate.

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    If the Fallout TV show taught me anything, you cannot profit off of the apocalypse. That’s literally antithetical to capitalism. That’s why they disrespected the lore so much, right?

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      history (aka, reality) proves war to be profitable.

      the american economy is incredibly dependent on creating and selling human killing devices. just go read what happens every time they try and cut back on the military-industrial complex.

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        Proxy wars are profitable. Total war really isn’t. Even in history for a war to be profitable, you have to be having the war outside your countries borders. Nukes aren’t profitable, and never will be.

        I hear what you are saying about the MIC. I also agree with Eisenhower when he said:

        “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.”

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          Ultimately there’s no objective measure of whether “war is profitable”. There’s no objective definition of war. There’s no objective measurement of the “sides” and their profit/loss, much less the nuances of who specifically profits or loses.

          But total was is relatively profitable versus being destroyed. And it’s absolutely profitable for a select group of people. Most often it’s similar people on “both sides” that profit.

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            Profitable for a select group of people, who should be named, shamed, tarred and feathered.

            I believe that if you were to do an economic analysis of the total P/L of the entirety of human conflict, the L column would overwhelmingly outweighs the P column, even leaving out all modern warfare, which just ramps up the L side. I say that because one of my econ professors did just that during a class. He published a paper about it, but I have no clue what it was called, it would have been somewhere between '96 and '98 that he published it.

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              They own all the guns though how can we name and shame when they can just destroy lives with impunity?