More dataisdepressing than dataisbeautiful

  • How do men suffer under patriarchy? Do u really want to be the one blaming 75% of suicides on men not being allowed to beat their wives? Sounds like ur calling all cis men evil bad people. I wonder what such a narrative would do to a young man trying to develop a sence of self, identity, and personal ideology?

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      30 days ago

      Do u really want to be the one blaming 75% of suicides on men not being allowed to beat their wives?

      This is so back asswards it is genuinely astounding.

      Men are 75% of suicides under patriarchy.

      Damn I wonder how someone could conclude that patriarchy hurts the majority of men.

      • Men are 75% of suicides under patriarchy.

        Male suicide is getting worse every year the patriarchy is getting destroyed more every year, im simply pointing out the correlation is backward sof what u claim.

        Damn I wonder how someone could conclude that patriarchy hurts the majority of men.

        The data correlates exactly the wrong way for this to be true.

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          30 days ago

          Correlation does not equal causation.

          I would point to the economic disparity that is widening in virtually every advanced economy as a much more relevant driver of male suicide.

          • Correlation does not equal causation.

            Exactly but causation does not come without correlation. Causation is a subset of correlation.

            I would point to the economic disparity that is widening in virtually every advanced economy as a much more relevant driver of male suicide.

            Economic disparity should be effecting the genders equally unless you are saying women are doing better financially.

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              29 days ago

              Maybe do some research about statistical concepts before spouting what sounds good to you. Causation can absolutely ‘come’ without correlation.

              You are a great example of someone not understanding that things are complex so you reach for tabloid explanations because they are comfortable and simple.

              • Maybe do some research about statistical concepts before spouting what sounds good to you. Causation can absolutely ‘come’ without correlation.

                Name a counter example

                You are a great example of someone not understanding that things are complex so you reach for tabloid explanations because they are comfortable and simple.

                I refuse to engage in bad faith argument and school yard insults.

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                  28 days ago

                  Name a counter example

                  Statistics isn’t defined by examples. Educate yourself, this is a very well known and understood concept. Staying in ignorance is your choice.

    • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      30 days ago

      How do men suffer under patriarchy?

      Queer and gender nonconforming men get an immense amount of abuse due to patriarchy. Even gender conforming straight boys and men do if they show sensitivity in any real capacity. The abuse of boys and young men for the sake of making them “man up” is hardly an unusual in many areas.

      Do u really want to be the one blaming 75% of suicides on men not being allowed to beat their wives?

      What? This has nothing to do with the comment you replied to.

      Sounds like ur calling all cis men evil bad people.

      No, this is a ridiculous conclusion you drew from someone saying patriarchy hurts everyone.