• Red_Scare [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 days ago

    Found in my history the last time I had an argument over this and I see you commented there as well lol: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5287344/4812302

    all Ukraine had to do was be normal. There could have been peace earlier but we blocked it; I don’t even know how that works, why the hell did Ukraine go along with that?

    of course as puppets they never would have been allowed to stop this war from starting. I just wish Zelensky would have the guts to cut the strings

    Literally everything Eastern Europe has to do is to stop praising, supporting and building monuments for fucking nazis and be normal, really hard part for a lot of them.

    And when I brought up how it’s the West that did this to us, you had a similar response as now:

    You know the person you’re talking to (1) opposed this and (2) had zero control over it, right?

    This is your brain on liberalism, you have Western “leftists” running around asking “why can’t those Slavs just be normal like us” but when a Slav mentions it’s you people who keep spreading this poison around the world you will turn around and go “well he can’t singlehandedly change the world can he?”

    Do you really not notice the hypocrisy here? Can’t understand how exasperating this is?

    I’m old, I grew up in the Ukrainian SSR, I remember school trips to Babi Yar, I know that Nazis killed and enslaved millions upon millions of Ukrainians - nothing remotely similar happened in the West and you don’t know this kind of generational trauma.

    Then I saw my country crumble around me as a child, every hope and value burned and desecrated. My family had to escape to Poland where they shat all over my heritage for decades… Then I learned the street I grew up on got renamed Shukhevych and there were neonazi militias roaming the land raping and torturing people, and now it’s all been fucking bombed to smithereens… And Western “leftists” go around asking “why can’t they be normal” and “why did Ukraine go along with getting couped” and “why doesn’t the puppet government we installed have guts to oppose us”, and making jokes about how Ukrainians will never forgive the Red Army for liberating them from Nazis.

    So you’re definitely right I’m sensitive to this shit. I’ve only been to Georgia a few times, maybe 6 weeks total if that, but I love the country and the people (even if I can’t find common language with the younger population), I’m angry and worried the same thing will happen there and yeah while nobody said this about Georgia yet surely you can see why I expect to start hearing this shit soon from the Western “leftists”?

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      8 days ago

      I’ll say what I said then: you’re screaming at people who agree with you because you’re putting words in their mouths.