Kamala Harris’s resounding defeat affirmed the worst of what many Black women believed about their country, even as some looked to the future with a wary determination.

Black women could see the mountaintop.

Across the country, they led an outpouring of Democratic elation when the vice president took over the top of the presidential ticket. But underneath their hope and determination was a persistent worry: Was America ready, they asked, to elect a Black woman?

The painful answer arrived this week.

It affirmed the worst of what many Black women believed about their country: that it would rather choose a man who was convicted of 34 felonies, has spewed lies and falsehoods, disparaged women and people of color, and pledged to use the powers of the federal government to punish his political opponents than send a woman of color to the White House.

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    The country is also filled with the 60% of black folks who didn’t vote. Then for whatever idiotic reason, trump had huge gains from the Latino population compared to 2020.

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    Yeah, 53% of white women voted for MAGA.

    The racist misogyny is definitely coming from inside the house.

    But yeah, this election with the 15 million voters, which included millions of Democrats and progressives, who didn’t vote and condoned and let very well known convicted felon, rapist, racist take complete control of the American government has cemented my view that America is definitely a racist country not worthy of my minority male ass helping to fix it anymore.

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        Of the 40% turnout of the black voters who bothered going out to vote.

        Really, it isn’t that trump got more people to vote for him. It’s that less people who would oppose him bothered to go and vote.

        Except for the Mexicans. Trump had huge gains compared to 2020 from them.

    • Skeezix@lemmy.world
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      Yes. Even in defeat and staring into the abyss the misinformation and grandstanding continues.

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    Many if not most people still work on common identity. They will vote for the person they identify with. That’s religion, class, family values whatever that means, and yes skin color. Say it ain’t so but that’s my take watching politics (inb4 the famous Lemmy misreadings, I don’t agree with that mentality, that’s simply my observation). Even with Obama some voters were saying “well he’s only half black” like that was the final ok.

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        “But half black and half Indian?!?” [Clutches pearls.]

        There was Fox anchor that said straight to Vivek’s face that she wouldn’t vote for him because he’s Indian heritage.

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            Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought they were the same thing? The golden-skinned Chimer all transformed (painfully?) into the Dark-skinned Dunmer elven race?

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    She lost because she was a status quo right winger and didn’t represent a large portion of her base or address their ever growing concerns.

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        Sure, but racism and sexism aren’t just white people problems. For example, I’m assuming the repeated efforts to reach out to black men in the last month were reactions to what internal polling was telling them. There are lots of people who’d vote for any man over any woman.

        Everyone also seems to be looking for the one and only reason Harris lost. There isn’t one reason. I’m sure racism and misogyny are reasons, even if they’re not the only ones.

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        He’s cultivating working class solidarity in a really powerful way, and it’s starting to appeal more and more to folks who’ve watched the Democrats pay only lip service to racial grievances, and then proceed to never make meaningful sacrifices to ameliorate the underlying problems of economic inequality and then work constructively to promote financial security.

        By doing what exactly? I’ve seen plenty of arguments like this about Dems not doing enough to seperate themselves from the status quo, and thus are losing ground to Republicans on things like the economy and fighting for the working class. I don’t disagree with that, but what arguments like that fail to convince me of is what exactly is Trump offering these Latino and Black voters that’s better?

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          “Change” and he’s further back in their memories. People are genuinely struggling - both in where they are and where they’re headed; he promises he can change that direction. He won’t, but people are desperate and Kamala ran as a status quo candidate

          It’s more than just one thing, of course. Probably some racism and sexism too

          • Fosheze@lemmy.world
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            Exactly. Most people don’t have any idea what will fix our issues they just know that something needs to change and Trump was the only one offering that. When people told Kamala they were struggling she just responded by saying that the economy is actually doing great. Trump promised actual changes (yes they’re all for the worse but the average idiot doesn’t know that) where as Kamala repeatedly just blew people off.

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        No one wants to hear this, but it’s pretty much only educated white and black folks that believe in the social program that has been floated by the democrats the last few elections. The country is a lot more diverse than that and South Asian, East Asian and Latino folks are largely what this site would call bigots.

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      Yeah, articles like this are nothing more than an attempt to scapegoat and spin the issue into Democratic “business as usual” so that the DNC doesn’t have to self-reflect on how they’ve spent decades selling out their base for rich corporate donors.

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      Although yes I agree with you, I also think the points the article raises are definitely a factor.

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    Funny. Every black woman I saw interviewed on major news outlets in the past 3 weeks said she was voting for trump.
    I was so confused.

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    If you think she lost because she is a black woman, then you are ignoring a lot of other factors that are far more significant. It won’t help anything to focus on that single aspect of her candidacy.