• ieightpi@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Still kinda sucks that the Dems lost popularity. I wonder if it would have been different if Biden was on ticket.

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      7 days ago

      Not only every single polling data indicates that otherwise, but lots of analysis are also identifying Harris’ interview on the View, where she stated that “nothing comes to mind” when they asked her what would she have done differently from Biden as one her campaigns biggest blunders.

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        6 days ago

        I don’t see how her statement can be considered a blunder in a world where the winner jacked off his microphone, had a full on dementia sundowning episode during a town hall, and espoused at length about the hog Arnold Palmer was crankin’.

        What was Kamala gonna do to top that? Peg JD’s favorite couch on stage, and then motorboat Cardi B while Carmen plays in the background?

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        7 days ago

        Their focus on everything but the economy during the campaign killed them. If they’d announced a major economic stimulus campaign to get folks back to where they were before the pandemic they’d have won. That gaffe on the view pegged Kamala as completely out of touch with what’s going on for working class people who are struggling.

        From what I could tell the campaign platform was “We’re not trump, and btw we support women and we ❤️ PoC/LGBTQ+” (which is essentially the same campaign Hillary ran and lost with.)

        They didn’t brag about how many jobs they created with the infrastructure spending acts and didn’t announce any further plans to keep that going. If they did then they certainly failed to fill the air with it. There was no message of change and hope which, let’s be honest, after 35+y of leaving the bottom 80% out of the Wall St economy a huge number of people were waiting to hear.

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          Also “we love PoC” comes off as quite cynical as they support slaughtering brown people en masse and denied them to even speak about it while still wanting to endorse Harris. Meanwhile the white people whose country is doing the slaughter got a prominent place on stage to talk about their grievances.

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      7 days ago

      Honestly there’s almost no way a sitting president gains popularity but considering his stance on Israel and stuff he sure as hell would lose some. I honestly don’t think it would have been better.

      Maybe being more policy specific would have helped Kamala. But the Democrats just have so much PR damage they haven’t addressed over time, they are not doing themselves any favors. Humility can be an incredible thing but if you’re a politician being humble is the hardest thing to fake, so if you’re not, you’re not gonna try if you’re smart enough.

      As a leftist (not in the US though) we just gotta take the L and that’s that. I’ll be waiting for the drop in support for Republicans after the fact and the following damage report from Rumpsteak’s presidency. Let’s just hope we get a competent cleaning crew to deal with the damage.

      Also reminder that I’m on the hindsight 20/20 high horse so it’s very easy to criticize, but I genuinely thought Kamala had a chance and it was a good idea so it’s not like I make a good oracle lol.

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        I’m always confused by the need for the Democrats to be more policy specific, when they’re the only party that actually shares any policy.
        I feel like people aren’t saying they’re unsure of the specifics of Kamala’s policy points, so they’re going to instead vote for the guy who rambles incoherently for an hour about evil Mexicans.

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          7 days ago

          I’m not deeply into politics but it seems to me that the Democrats have a marketing problem. An analogy about “policy” is getting user feedback on a product and acting on what the user thinks resolves the problem rather than coming up with proper solution design

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          7 days ago

          I think this shows a lot of potential Kamala voters chose not to vote, instead of going to the orange Julius. Democrats have to be more specific with policy because leftists demand it. The right (Trumps base) doesn’t care.

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            It’s great to know theyre complete jackasses who would rather take trump than someone who represents 70% of what they want.

            Very comforting, very logical.

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            I’d be curious to know how many left the vote blank because of the gencodie, but they will never collect or report on such a statistic. Its forbidden, even now.

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      7 days ago

      It isn’t hard for me to believe that 1 in 8 people would refuse to vote someone because their gender or color.

      On a side note, I’m getting older and losing touch with new music, but are women’s punk rock bands not as popular as I once remember them being or what? The world could use a little more fuck the patriarchy.

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        Im not sure, but I feel like girl led punk rock is making a resurgence lately, though the definition of what punk rock is may be arguable

        Grlwood is an artist that comes to mind, but there are others for sure

        Checkout ‘fuck me up’ from them

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        6 days ago

        Somehow Kamala is the patriarchy though?!:-P

        Not as much as The Donald, ofc, but Kamala came across as being basically the same as Joe Biden, or at least it looks like that was what she was aiming for.

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          It doesn’t help anything but if you consider that our population grew by 6 million during that time and 22% (kids) can’t vote. Then say that only 46% of the population votes… Trump should have had right over 2 million more votes this election, aka he lost votes when accounting for population growth.