“When someone shows you who they are, believe them…”
They’ve told you with the “eating the dogs” comments and hundreds of other examples… They aren’t afraid to confidently lie to win…
They’ve told you they believe they are in a way that they would die and kill to win…
Remember, years of false, unsubstantiated outrage is meant to dilute challenge to actual crimes and horror. Some things to think about…
We can have measured confirmation, without conspiracy. We will review this election and make evidence-based arguments.
The richest man in the world owns thousands of SW engineers that remain in his companies (after all with any morality have been purged through years of labor abuse). He joked with carlson about how he was completely fucked if trump didn’t win. What do you think the richest man in the world is capable of in that moment?
It is surprising that the presidential Democratic candidate finally lost a popular vote after 20+ years, but currently it appears that she just lost.
Sure, do a recount of a sample of suspected precincts. I am going to continue to believe that this is a conspiracy theory until substantiated evidence of fraud is provided.
As an aside, those images are small and I could barely read them (zooming didn’t increase image size).
Summary of evidence and concerns:
Trump is a Russian asset working for Putin (see book American Kompromat by journalist Craig Unger or Active Measures documentary with Hillary Clinton(1), sources below). Elon and Trump are working together (2). They both have substantial ties to Epstein (3) (4) (5) (6). Trump stole election software in 2020 (7). Similarly, Elon Musk has been in contact with Russia for the last 2 years (8). This includes during the Ukraine War when Russia began using Starlink (9) while it was claimed they got them third party and not from Musk himself; however now appears imo to show Elon is a doublecrosser.
Starlink, Elon’s satellite company, was installed in some voting machines across the country (10) and may have interfered with vote tabulation. Voting machines were found to be connected to the internet (11). An independent report on voting machines concluded that tabulation tampering was possible with current voting machines, so hand counts are vital (12). In September, Politico had an investigation finding Russian malware on a state voter registration database (13). Also, there were malicious fake texts from fake DNC organizations, connected to Elon who donated to them, that were fishing voter info (14).
Elon had results of election on an app 4 hours before official counts had it (15), per Joe Rogan podcast in a discussion to Theo Von. Earlier this year, Tana Monogeau, released info that she’d been offered millions of dollars to endorse the Trump campaign and that she knew others had taken the deal (16).
They will release more info admitting their fraud because they are a Russian asset trying to start a civil war here (speculation). They want us to be confused about sources and who to trust and what’s real, they want to release the truth to anger us and lies to anger us. Trump has refused to write an ethics statement for transition of power saying he will transition peacefully (17). JD Vance has also told the EU that unless they allow X unfettered access to the EU (to spread propaganda), they will withdraw the US from NATO (18) - which will prompt wars or takeover either way and weakens Germany, who is entering an election since their government couldn’t agree on Ukraine budget. A Russian space chief said Elon Musk’s plan to bomb Mars is a cover to put nuclear weapons in space (19).
Also speculation, are reports of widespread ballot rejection, especially for signatures. There are articles claiming already that it is because GenZ does not know cursive (20) - except the signature simply must match your driver’s license. It’s not a cursive writing test. Avocado toast but with gen z voting fraud. We do not yet have the ballot rejection rates but typically they are around 1% to 1.5% (21).
Crypto is how right wing conservatism got funded here. It’s why it took off- it was basically UBI for those men, funded by foreign intelligence for this purpose along with other uses for crypto like dark money, drugs, trafficking, etc (22)(23). The least informed people we knew were investing in crypto when it was starting, mining bitcoins. They couldn’t tell you what a stock or tariff is, yet they were making bank in crypto trading. Crypto trading, especially memecoins, appears to be an obvious scam to most because it’s the stock market without ownership. So why were these 4chan pedophiles and nazis doing so well? Because it was just meant to give them money the whole time. And crypto is great for transferring money internationally from shady organizations to shady people (24). Far right catchphrases and meme campaigns dispersed online including X, give out the key words/catchphrases for the new coin that isn’t a scam and will disperse money. People who are deep in these groups interner algorithms get these keywords first and normal outsiders will either not notice or will stay away. No normal person wants a coin that references Hitler if they are just scrolling memecoins.
Once the government has been taken over, they can force their memecoin as the national currency and then rug pull, which is also what Musk is likely going to do to Tesla at the same time. The entire point is to bankrupt America for Putin and his cartoon villain cohorts. Musk is already saying he wants to withdraw from US currency due to national debt (Trump added most of the national debt) (25).
If you’re in Germany, take note. They are coming for you next, your election is soon.
“If you can watch your vote counter, if we can bring God down from heaven (he’s referencing Starlink), we can win this, win California, win a lot of states.”
If Trump was so sure the election was rigged and they were going to turnover every state including California, then why hasn’t he asked for a recount in all the states with representatives that didn’t get elected that he thought would be? Shouldn’t he be suing for recounts? He did it last time. Why doesn’t he want an investigation this time?
I’m really sorry, but I think it’s much more likely that the Democratic platform was very unpopular because it didn’t really appeal to what voters cared about. It’s tempting to start considering conspiracy theories, and it’s good to be skeptical of the systems which govern us, but I don’t think it’s very likely that election interference occurred in this case.
There is plenty of evidence of voters who are really disillusioned with the democrats because they just don’t seem to be focused on the things that matter to the average working class voter - the cost of living going up while wages remain stagnant, entire sectors of the economy being captured by monopolies, public services and infrastructure crumbling, health care and education becoming harder and harder to access…
The democrats are the party of socially liberal, wealthy people. The republicans are the party of socially conservative, wealthy people. This time, more people believed the republicans lies than the democrats lies.
Looks like that Kathleen person is making that claim, I’d reach out to them if you’d like expansion. I’m not on Twitter so can’t engage further. If anything, I imagine “starship” would be a common spell check correction of “starlink” as it’s a made up marketing word. To that, seems she’d be referring to the recently discussed rumors about musk starlink satellites somehow being involved in the collection/transmission of vote counts in some areas (I haven’t looked into or seen any direct evidence of that specifically), alongside things like Joe rogan just saying that musk “had an app” and he “knew the election result 4 hours before it was called”.
I’m more interested in hearing more about the “under ballot” concerns and the person outlining the simple way to get clarity here with strategic confirmation of votes in a couple counties with especially prevalent shifts as illustrative of larger potential issues.
I’ve seen a young women very stressed out talking in a video-tweet (originally from TikTok) about how a hacker-friend who works in IT security told her how the starlink satellites communicate with Linux servers which per se can’t “split the signal” and therefore could not correctly count the vote. I could have stopped the video there. If that’s Kathleen either her “friend” deliberately misinformed her or she is a grifter.
Than the pretty sure straight up fabricated lies about controlled crashes.
Also the fishy af Joe Rogan telling his bros about how Elmo created an app to get the election results beforehand was either a troll by Mask or Rogan not getting that the polls just concluded that Traitor in Chief couldn’t lose anymore.
OTOH I’ve seen a believable video-tweet from a mid 30 very american looking and speaking women in very american looking home with a kid in the background who shouted something very adorable to her.
She talked about that she was requesting the status of her mail-in ballot from the election office and that it wasn’t set to counted and/or that they couldn’t find it, I don’t remember exactly. She seemed very authentic.
“When someone shows you who they are, believe them…”
They’ve told you with the “eating the dogs” comments and hundreds of other examples… They aren’t afraid to confidently lie to win…
They’ve told you they believe they are in a way that they would die and kill to win…
Remember, years of false, unsubstantiated outrage is meant to dilute challenge to actual crimes and horror. Some things to think about…
We can have measured confirmation, without conspiracy. We will review this election and make evidence-based arguments.
The richest man in the world owns thousands of SW engineers that remain in his companies (after all with any morality have been purged through years of labor abuse). He joked with carlson about how he was completely fucked if trump didn’t win. What do you think the richest man in the world is capable of in that moment?
It is surprising that the presidential Democratic candidate finally lost a popular vote after 20+ years, but currently it appears that she just lost. Sure, do a recount of a sample of suspected precincts. I am going to continue to believe that this is a conspiracy theory until substantiated evidence of fraud is provided.
As an aside, those images are small and I could barely read them (zooming didn’t increase image size).
Summary of evidence and concerns: Trump is a Russian asset working for Putin (see book American Kompromat by journalist Craig Unger or Active Measures documentary with Hillary Clinton(1), sources below). Elon and Trump are working together (2). They both have substantial ties to Epstein (3) (4) (5) (6). Trump stole election software in 2020 (7). Similarly, Elon Musk has been in contact with Russia for the last 2 years (8). This includes during the Ukraine War when Russia began using Starlink (9) while it was claimed they got them third party and not from Musk himself; however now appears imo to show Elon is a doublecrosser.
Starlink, Elon’s satellite company, was installed in some voting machines across the country (10) and may have interfered with vote tabulation. Voting machines were found to be connected to the internet (11). An independent report on voting machines concluded that tabulation tampering was possible with current voting machines, so hand counts are vital (12). In September, Politico had an investigation finding Russian malware on a state voter registration database (13). Also, there were malicious fake texts from fake DNC organizations, connected to Elon who donated to them, that were fishing voter info (14).
Elon had results of election on an app 4 hours before official counts had it (15), per Joe Rogan podcast in a discussion to Theo Von. Earlier this year, Tana Monogeau, released info that she’d been offered millions of dollars to endorse the Trump campaign and that she knew others had taken the deal (16).
They will release more info admitting their fraud because they are a Russian asset trying to start a civil war here (speculation). They want us to be confused about sources and who to trust and what’s real, they want to release the truth to anger us and lies to anger us. Trump has refused to write an ethics statement for transition of power saying he will transition peacefully (17). JD Vance has also told the EU that unless they allow X unfettered access to the EU (to spread propaganda), they will withdraw the US from NATO (18) - which will prompt wars or takeover either way and weakens Germany, who is entering an election since their government couldn’t agree on Ukraine budget. A Russian space chief said Elon Musk’s plan to bomb Mars is a cover to put nuclear weapons in space (19).
Also speculation, are reports of widespread ballot rejection, especially for signatures. There are articles claiming already that it is because GenZ does not know cursive (20) - except the signature simply must match your driver’s license. It’s not a cursive writing test. Avocado toast but with gen z voting fraud. We do not yet have the ballot rejection rates but typically they are around 1% to 1.5% (21).
Crypto is how right wing conservatism got funded here. It’s why it took off- it was basically UBI for those men, funded by foreign intelligence for this purpose along with other uses for crypto like dark money, drugs, trafficking, etc (22)(23). The least informed people we knew were investing in crypto when it was starting, mining bitcoins. They couldn’t tell you what a stock or tariff is, yet they were making bank in crypto trading. Crypto trading, especially memecoins, appears to be an obvious scam to most because it’s the stock market without ownership. So why were these 4chan pedophiles and nazis doing so well? Because it was just meant to give them money the whole time. And crypto is great for transferring money internationally from shady organizations to shady people (24). Far right catchphrases and meme campaigns dispersed online including X, give out the key words/catchphrases for the new coin that isn’t a scam and will disperse money. People who are deep in these groups interner algorithms get these keywords first and normal outsiders will either not notice or will stay away. No normal person wants a coin that references Hitler if they are just scrolling memecoins.
Once the government has been taken over, they can force their memecoin as the national currency and then rug pull, which is also what Musk is likely going to do to Tesla at the same time. The entire point is to bankrupt America for Putin and his cartoon villain cohorts. Musk is already saying he wants to withdraw from US currency due to national debt (Trump added most of the national debt) (25).
If you’re in Germany, take note. They are coming for you next, your election is soon.
News Links
(1) https://youtu.be/5umiMThrlsA
(2) https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elon-musk-weighing-trump-staffing-decisions-sources/story?id=115730434
(3) https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/03/trump-infiltrate-voting-machines-georgia-2020.html
(4) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html
(5) https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epsteins-ex-girlfriend-dated-kimbal-musk-brother-of-tesla-founder-elon-musk-2020-1
(6) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fire-and-fury-the-podcast/id1750757108
(7) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/trump-jeffrey-epstein-tapes
(8) https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-to-know-about-elon-musks-reported-phone-calls-with-putin-and-why-it-matters
(9) https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-using-thousands-spacex-starlink-terminals-ukraine-wsj-says-2024-02-15/
(10) https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/1gnxqmw/elon_musks_company_starlink_praised_by_tulare/
(11) www.nbcnews.com/news/ncna1112436
(12) https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/inside-georgias-effort-to-secure-voting-machines-as-experts-raise-concerns
(13) https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/01/us-election-software-national-security-threats-00176615
(14) https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2024/10/pro-trump-dark-money-network-tied-to-elon-musk-behind-fake-pro-harris-campaign-scheme/
(15) https://grabien.com/story.php?id=499986
(16) https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashajokic1/tana-mongeau-paid-political-endorsement
(17) https://apnews.com/article/trump-transition-planning-ca3a6be50d147b04b6498184e5599b1e
(18) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-elon-musk-x-twitter-donald-trump-b2614525.html
(19) https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/499968-russian-space-chief-elon-musks-plan-to-bomb-mars-is-a-cover-to-put/
(20) https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-voters-struggle-signatures-cast-mail-ballot-problems-2024-11
(21) https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_rejected_ballots
(22) https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/far-right-extremists-raise-millions-cryptocurrency-bitcoin/
(23) https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/opinion/crypto-cryptocurrency-money-conspiracy.html
(24) https://apnews.com/article/cryptocurrency-coronavirus-pandemic-technology-business-europe-f7f754fc2c68b0eb0d712239323f26c3
(25) https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/11/10/its-unsustainable-tesla-ceo-elon-musk-issues-us-serious-bankruptcy-warning-amid-huge-bitcoin-and-dogecoin-price-surge/
Personal Testimony from the dickbags themselves:
youtube.com/live/HBPNfAUPz08?si=PZQa_D_wbN9VoA6y
In the first minute:
“Your votes are rigged. We can win New Mexico.”
“If you can watch your vote counter, if we can bring God down from heaven (he’s referencing Starlink), we can win this, win California, win a lot of states.”
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/if-trump-loses-im-fcked-elon-musk-in-interview-with-tucker-carlson/articleshow/114024254.cms
“If [Trump] loses, I’m f*cked… How long do you think my prison sentence is going to be?”
Why does Elon think he would go to prison though? For what crime?
youtu.be/Zmc0EN8XAY8?si=5u_mJNte37r4JmUb
Trump:“Our little secret is having a big impact”
If Trump was so sure the election was rigged and they were going to turnover every state including California, then why hasn’t he asked for a recount in all the states with representatives that didn’t get elected that he thought would be? Shouldn’t he be suing for recounts? He did it last time. Why doesn’t he want an investigation this time?
I’m really sorry, but I think it’s much more likely that the Democratic platform was very unpopular because it didn’t really appeal to what voters cared about. It’s tempting to start considering conspiracy theories, and it’s good to be skeptical of the systems which govern us, but I don’t think it’s very likely that election interference occurred in this case.
There is plenty of evidence of voters who are really disillusioned with the democrats because they just don’t seem to be focused on the things that matter to the average working class voter - the cost of living going up while wages remain stagnant, entire sectors of the economy being captured by monopolies, public services and infrastructure crumbling, health care and education becoming harder and harder to access…
The democrats are the party of socially liberal, wealthy people. The republicans are the party of socially conservative, wealthy people. This time, more people believed the republicans lies than the democrats lies.
Holy misinformation that’s a lot.
Did you read any of these sources or watch the videos? The Starlink (10) claim is BS, as anyone with ears who watched that video can see.
That’s a link to a local news station…
https://abc30.com/post/tulare-county-sees-larger-voter-turnout-during-2024-presidential-election/15519472/
Is it so hard to believe that a majority of theamerican population is just shit and the dems ran an especially bad campaign?
Ah yes, the classic WHEN IF/ELSE function
It gave me a chuckle.
Do you have more information on that claim that Starship was being used for tabulation in swing states?
Looks like that Kathleen person is making that claim, I’d reach out to them if you’d like expansion. I’m not on Twitter so can’t engage further. If anything, I imagine “starship” would be a common spell check correction of “starlink” as it’s a made up marketing word. To that, seems she’d be referring to the recently discussed rumors about musk starlink satellites somehow being involved in the collection/transmission of vote counts in some areas (I haven’t looked into or seen any direct evidence of that specifically), alongside things like Joe rogan just saying that musk “had an app” and he “knew the election result 4 hours before it was called”.
I’m more interested in hearing more about the “under ballot” concerns and the person outlining the simple way to get clarity here with strategic confirmation of votes in a couple counties with especially prevalent shifts as illustrative of larger potential issues.
I’ve seen a young women very stressed out talking in a video-tweet (originally from TikTok) about how a hacker-friend who works in IT security told her how the starlink satellites communicate with Linux servers which per se can’t “split the signal” and therefore could not correctly count the vote. I could have stopped the video there. If that’s Kathleen either her “friend” deliberately misinformed her or she is a grifter.
Than the pretty sure straight up fabricated lies about controlled crashes.
Also the fishy af Joe Rogan telling his bros about how Elmo created an app to get the election results beforehand was either a troll by Mask or Rogan not getting that the polls just concluded that Traitor in Chief couldn’t lose anymore.
OTOH I’ve seen a believable video-tweet from a mid 30 very american looking and speaking women in very american looking home with a kid in the background who shouted something very adorable to her.
She talked about that she was requesting the status of her mail-in ballot from the election office and that it wasn’t set to counted and/or that they couldn’t find it, I don’t remember exactly. She seemed very authentic.
Republicans cry foul with every election. The Dems should call for a recount too.
We should always do a recount.
I still find it more likely that most of America is just very misogynist and in denial about it.