• DankZedong @lemmygrad.mlOP
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    1 day ago

    I mean have you seen how bloodthirsty a lot of the westerners are? Until the bombs actually start falling on their cities they think they are some undefeatable force of good that can’t be harmed.

    • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]@hexbear.net
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      21 hours ago

      According to Forskning.no, Norway is the number one country in Europe by percentage of population willing to “fight for their country”. It might also be the only European country in the world top 10 depending on how you count Georgia. Norway stands behind only China, Bangladesh, Kyrgyzstan, Jordan, and finally Vietnam, the number one country in the world by willingness to fight for its independence. The high percentage in VN is attributed to the Vietnam War, and likewise the high percentage in Norway is attributed to the resistance against Germany during the Second World War. We could also bring up the Swedish invasion of 1814 and the Swedish invasion that never happened during the 1905 crisis, but these are “ancient history” by comparison. Not really the stuff that inspires blockbuster movies and pop history books, you know.

      The reason I bring this up is because Norwegians, it seems, think that every invasion has the same character as the German invasion, and that their own freedom amounts to simply the freedom to hoist the national flag up a backyard flagpole. Norwegians would never put any real thought into the material causes of war and invasion, nor any thought into how the capitalist class wages war on them every day. Norwegians in fact celebrate that the Blücher was sunk before it could ever reach the “heart of the nation” one moment, and then the next moment they welcome the Harry S. Truman to Oslo — the Hakenkreuz flag was dragged to the very bottom of that narrow fjord, while the ensign of the Nazis’ greatest inspiration my countrymen let flutter high over the same waters 84 years later. Yesterday’s “we are here to protect the Norwegian people from the existential threat of Judaeo-Bolshevism” became today’s “we are here to protect the Norwegian people from the existential threat of Russian aggression” — and this sham was apparently accepted by most countrymen for the simple fact that the folding of Norway into vassalage to the Septic Reich took a more “presentable” form than the short-lived attempt to fold Norway into the German Reich. The number of Nazis granted key positions in NATO be damned, of course, Norway is after all the same country that refused to convict a Holocaust collaborator because he was simply too useful as an anti-communist asset.

    • davel@lemmygrad.ml
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      21 hours ago

      I try to point out to them the two gaping holes in Manhattan that our national interests created.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 day ago

      I’ve never had any illusions regarding the bloodlust in the west, the utter lack of understanding of what an all out war with Russia would mean has shocked me though. It’s especially wild that Europeans, who will be the first victims of the conflict, are the ones cheering this the most. At least with the US, you can see how they might think that the conflict to be contained to Europe.