Yeah, I think it’d be good to select a handful of the most statistically unlikely outcomes and hand recount, if for no other reason than to put these rumours to bed.
4 years ago, we know for sure because conspirators in the fake elector scheme have talked to the doj and the FBI that they tried to steal the presidential election by manipulating votes.
2 years after that, Trump’s lawyers had people steal the software from the voting machines that 90% of voters in those swing States used.
so a bunch of computer scientists are saying hey. they literally already tried to do it and failed, let’s make sure they didn’t try and succeed this time.
it’s more than an outlandish theory, it’s voting manipulation that we know has already happened and we know could happen again, except this time they have had the voting software for 3 years
yeah these are serious facts that need to leads to action.
they’re shocking, and undeniable since the connection between Trump’s lawyers and the stolen voting software was documented in accord case as having happened.
and those statistical improbabilities concerning the ballots are insane, and only occurred in the seven swing States.
sorry, I know I’m repeating what you just wrote, it’s just blowing my mind right now.
Yeah the crazy difference in bullet votes this year vs last year AND the differences between voting locations this year is simply undeniable. It’s highly improbable to be so different ONLY where Republicans most needed the wins.
I would have thought all the other points were total nonsense if not for the statistical anomalies.
we’re still in the fog of the election, and there’s only that one guy that pit forth all those numbers, The other computer scientists are much more concerned that Trump’s lawyers admitted to stealing and having access to the voting software itself, so we have to wait for it to shake out, but if those numbers are accurate then they’re absolutely insane.
That was n addition to the 2.7 million who had their right to vote silently challenged with the abuse pf an old Jim Crow law, to stop their votes from being counted.
I think Trump wasn’t really making an accusation in 2020. He was making a threat.
exactly, my voter registration was purged and I had to re-register this year.
there’s been election interference going on by Republicans for decades and this time they stole voting software specifically used in the presidential election, there are good reasons why we should do manual ballot counts.
He was pre-discrediting legitimate concerns of fraud by first raising his own obviously illegitimate concerns of fraud. Now the “I think there was fraud” well has been poisoned.
better yet, just read the open letter from the 8th scientists, or any of the other open letters floating around there to Harris.
do you know about the fake electors came 4 years ago?
2 years later it came to light in court that Trump’s lawyer is hired people to steal the election software from our most popular voting machines .
The machines that were used this year in this election.
so we know that there were fake electors casting fake votes trying to steal the presidential election 4 years ago and they lost.
now we know that they stole the election software from voting machines and doesn’t look computer security analysts are saying hey, these numbers look weird. let’s do a manual recount since they have access to the voting machines that 90% of Americans used to determine this election.
nope, that snopes article refers specifically to the mathematical extrapolations of one separate computer scientist, not the other eight guys who wrote the sourced open letter or Trump’s lawyers that have admitted to stealing voting software with the intent to manipulate the election.
Did you read the article? It has numbers to back up the statements. The bullet vote issue is crazy. I came into it with a lot of skepticism, but the numbers are significant and suspicious as fuck. They’re finding fraud the same way people figured out many sumo wrestling matches are fixed - statistics.
They can’t accept that they ran a shitty candidate with no platform that gaslit the public about inflation and started two new wars. Nah nah you see the election was stolen according to these blue MAGA idiots.
Inflation has never been higher, damn what the cooked books the government relies on says (this is what I mean by biden/Harris are gaslighting the public.) I know my dollar doesn’t go as far as it did in 2020 let alone 2016 or even 2012.
What do you call the genocide in Palestine or the meat grinder in Ukraine? Are they not forever wars? The democrats ran garbage and are shocked that they lost.
Nobody said inflation wasn’t a problem. In fact, fighting inflation was a major talking point for Harris’s plans, unlike Trump. But people have jobs, the housing market hasn’t crashed, the stock market hasn’t crashed, businesses are still open (hence the jobs). People don’t understand how much worse a recession is than the soft landing that Biden promised and delivered on.
Also, in case you forgot. Covid and Trump are the reason why the economy were headed for a recession.
Also, those aren’t our wars. We didn’t start them. But I’m sure as hell glad that we helped the victims of Russia’s aggression. If you’re upset about that, I WILL assume you’re a Russia sympathizer.
I’m not a Russian sympathizer. I hate all imperialist governments.
You know who regime changed Ukraine, kicked out a pro Russian leader, and installed a pro nato one? None other than Victoria neuland under the Obama administration!
This war is and always has been avoidable, but Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, et al own the dis United States.
Or instead of resorting to ridiculous conspiracy theories, cope and seethe with the fact that the democrats suck ass and lost an election fair and square with gaslighting about inflation, not holding a primary, running a demented geezer and then forcing Kamala Harris in last minute despite her being unpopular and without a single primary vote (oh the irony about sAvInG dEmOcRaCy) and with two new wars one featuring a genocide.
Democrats need to go do some soul searching rather than take comfort in ridiculous conspiracies. Biden/Harris is wildly unpopular. Y’all lost because your party and candidate are absolute garbage. Biden’s own internal polling showed him losing in a landslide.
Hold your stupid party of out to brunch, limp wristed do nothing coastal urban elites accountable instead of this bullshit.
Al Gore’s loss happened when I was in high school. I couldn’t (or if I could I didn’t know I could) vote at that time, but I distinctly remember hoping for Gore even though I thought Bush had a cooler name (Middle school. Priorities were not great lol)
This is the first I’ve heard about WHY Gore lost. Never looked it up.
it’s an absolutely crazy story, probably the first time I was like wait, the Supreme Court can Just do whatever they want, including change the result of the presidential election?
Why would they do that?
and then 20 years of civil rights being stripped away by the Supreme Court happened and it became undeniable that the SC were a conservative tool rather than a balanced judicial body.
You are right. Al Gore even conceded the election early because the thought that was more polite and proper then realized and tried to do take-backsies.
But you also need a bit of a chill pill. Cause to a degree you are just throwing shit everywhere now. Don’t go making statements about others in here, aim for what’s true.
according to computer security experts, the US presidential election was likely hacked via voting software.
The numbers Trump achieved are non-credible.
https://www.planetcritical.com/p/cyber-security-experts-warn-election-hacked
Let’s prove it. The GOP might call fowl, but who gives a fuck, they ought to be thrilled to prove election fraud.
right, let’s count manually.
Just to make sure.
Yeah, I think it’d be good to select a handful of the most statistically unlikely outcomes and hand recount, if for no other reason than to put these rumours to bed.
4 years ago, we know for sure because conspirators in the fake elector scheme have talked to the doj and the FBI that they tried to steal the presidential election by manipulating votes.
2 years after that, Trump’s lawyers had people steal the software from the voting machines that 90% of voters in those swing States used.
so a bunch of computer scientists are saying hey. they literally already tried to do it and failed, let’s make sure they didn’t try and succeed this time.
it’s more than an outlandish theory, it’s voting manipulation that we know has already happened and we know could happen again, except this time they have had the voting software for 3 years
Those are some actually compelling points
yeah these are serious facts that need to leads to action.
they’re shocking, and undeniable since the connection between Trump’s lawyers and the stolen voting software was documented in accord case as having happened.
and those statistical improbabilities concerning the ballots are insane, and only occurred in the seven swing States.
sorry, I know I’m repeating what you just wrote, it’s just blowing my mind right now.
Yeah the crazy difference in bullet votes this year vs last year AND the differences between voting locations this year is simply undeniable. It’s highly improbable to be so different ONLY where Republicans most needed the wins.
I would have thought all the other points were total nonsense if not for the statistical anomalies.
we’re still in the fog of the election, and there’s only that one guy that pit forth all those numbers, The other computer scientists are much more concerned that Trump’s lawyers admitted to stealing and having access to the voting software itself, so we have to wait for it to shake out, but if those numbers are accurate then they’re absolutely insane.
That was n addition to the 2.7 million who had their right to vote silently challenged with the abuse pf an old Jim Crow law, to stop their votes from being counted.
I think Trump wasn’t really making an accusation in 2020. He was making a threat.
exactly, my voter registration was purged and I had to re-register this year.
there’s been election interference going on by Republicans for decades and this time they stole voting software specifically used in the presidential election, there are good reasons why we should do manual ballot counts.
He was pre-discrediting legitimate concerns of fraud by first raising his own obviously illegitimate concerns of fraud. Now the “I think there was fraud” well has been poisoned.
Was this election hacked because you didn’t like the outcome? The machines are basically the same as 2020, but magically weren’t hacked then?
no dude. not even close to on point on anything.
read the article, hahah.
better yet, just read the open letter from the 8th scientists, or any of the other open letters floating around there to Harris.
do you know about the fake electors came 4 years ago?
2 years later it came to light in court that Trump’s lawyer is hired people to steal the election software from our most popular voting machines .
The machines that were used this year in this election.
so we know that there were fake electors casting fake votes trying to steal the presidential election 4 years ago and they lost.
now we know that they stole the election software from voting machines and doesn’t look computer security analysts are saying hey, these numbers look weird. let’s do a manual recount since they have access to the voting machines that 90% of Americans used to determine this election.
these are facts Jack
Facts it’s wishful thinking there was hacking.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/21/stephen-spoonamore-letter-harris/
nope, that snopes article refers specifically to the mathematical extrapolations of one separate computer scientist, not the other eight guys who wrote the sourced open letter or Trump’s lawyers that have admitted to stealing voting software with the intent to manipulate the election.
That snopes article itself is “wishful thinking”
Did you read the article? It has numbers to back up the statements. The bullet vote issue is crazy. I came into it with a lot of skepticism, but the numbers are significant and suspicious as fuck. They’re finding fraud the same way people figured out many sumo wrestling matches are fixed - statistics.
It’s all bs
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/21/stephen-spoonamore-letter-harris/
They can’t accept that they ran a shitty candidate with no platform that gaslit the public about inflation and started two new wars. Nah nah you see the election was stolen according to these blue MAGA idiots.
None of that happened. But you do you, boo.
Also, I don’t think the election was stolen. But a recount would be great to restore voter confidence.
Inflation has never been higher, damn what the cooked books the government relies on says (this is what I mean by biden/Harris are gaslighting the public.) I know my dollar doesn’t go as far as it did in 2020 let alone 2016 or even 2012.
What do you call the genocide in Palestine or the meat grinder in Ukraine? Are they not forever wars? The democrats ran garbage and are shocked that they lost.
Nobody said inflation wasn’t a problem. In fact, fighting inflation was a major talking point for Harris’s plans, unlike Trump. But people have jobs, the housing market hasn’t crashed, the stock market hasn’t crashed, businesses are still open (hence the jobs). People don’t understand how much worse a recession is than the soft landing that Biden promised and delivered on.
Also, in case you forgot. Covid and Trump are the reason why the economy were headed for a recession.
Also, those aren’t our wars. We didn’t start them. But I’m sure as hell glad that we helped the victims of Russia’s aggression. If you’re upset about that, I WILL assume you’re a Russia sympathizer.
I’m not a Russian sympathizer. I hate all imperialist governments.
You know who regime changed Ukraine, kicked out a pro Russian leader, and installed a pro nato one? None other than Victoria neuland under the Obama administration!
This war is and always has been avoidable, but Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin, et al own the dis United States.
Or instead of resorting to ridiculous conspiracy theories, cope and seethe with the fact that the democrats suck ass and lost an election fair and square with gaslighting about inflation, not holding a primary, running a demented geezer and then forcing Kamala Harris in last minute despite her being unpopular and without a single primary vote (oh the irony about sAvInG dEmOcRaCy) and with two new wars one featuring a genocide.
Nah, let’s go with stolen!!! fucking loser
“conspiracy theories”
these are the documented, court-confirmed facts Jack.
doesn’t matter if you don’t like em.
keep up with your “cope and seethe”.
Democrats need to go do some soul searching rather than take comfort in ridiculous conspiracies. Biden/Harris is wildly unpopular. Y’all lost because your party and candidate are absolute garbage. Biden’s own internal polling showed him losing in a landslide.
Hold your stupid party of out to brunch, limp wristed do nothing coastal urban elites accountable instead of this bullshit.
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Al Gore’s loss happened when I was in high school. I couldn’t (or if I could I didn’t know I could) vote at that time, but I distinctly remember hoping for Gore even though I thought Bush had a cooler name (Middle school. Priorities were not great lol)
This is the first I’ve heard about WHY Gore lost. Never looked it up.
So thank you for the small history lesson.
haha, yeah for sure.
it’s an absolutely crazy story, probably the first time I was like wait, the Supreme Court can Just do whatever they want, including change the result of the presidential election?
Why would they do that?
and then 20 years of civil rights being stripped away by the Supreme Court happened and it became undeniable that the SC were a conservative tool rather than a balanced judicial body.
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You are right. Al Gore even conceded the election early because the thought that was more polite and proper then realized and tried to do take-backsies.
But you also need a bit of a chill pill. Cause to a degree you are just throwing shit everywhere now. Don’t go making statements about others in here, aim for what’s true.
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