Summary

Elon Musk labeled Britain a “tyrannical police state” on X, criticized Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s leadership, and questioned the imprisonment of far-right activist Tommy Robinson.

Musk’s comments coincide with his role as a key adviser to Trump, raising concerns in the U.K. about its relationship with the incoming administration.

Musk also criticized Starmer’s policies, including increased farm inheritance taxes, and boosted far-right content on X.

This follows similar clashes with other U.S. allies, including Germany and Australia, over their domestic policies.

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    20 days ago

    White, rich guy from apartheid South Africa accuses country of tyranny after it locks up a person white supremacists look up to.

    Hmm. Hmmmm.

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            19 days ago

            “Captain, we are being hailed by T’ger.”

            “On screen.”

            “Elon and Don at McDonalds. Arms wide.”

            “Arm photon torpedoes.”

            “Can you make it go?”

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        19 days ago

        Elon has spent $5 billion in taxpayers money and he hasn’t even gotten an empty Starship into orbit yet. NASA can land a working rover on Mars for $1billion, and SpaceX can barely manage to recapture a smoking husk of a booster on “the chopsticks”.

        Believe me the galaxy is safe. Elon just wants those taxpayers dollars to keep his grift going.

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          19 days ago

          There are a thousand better takes on Elon being a nazi piece of shit than trying to trash the most advanced rocket company in the world with weak arguments.

          NASA always uses third party contractors for launch vehicles, and spacex is the best rocket company. Nobody is even close to second place now that Boeing is in the business of producing death traps and national security risks.

          You call Elon a terrible piece of shit, but that thankfully has little to do with Shotwells excellent leadership at spacex.

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        I read that the, to be allowed, 25 starts of the starship rocket will blast the equivalent GHGs of 975000 airliner flights or about the yearly output of 280000 homes, into earths atmosphere. So at first SpaceX is a threat to us.

        I downvoted myself. The claim was that one start and reentry of the Starship would emit 97000 tons of GHGs into earths atmosphere.

        Another redditor fact-checked it and it seems to be only about 3300 tons per flight so it’s 30 times less.

        100 starts of the Spaceship would amount to 0.3% of the total emissions of all airplanes in a year.

        I usually fact check posts with numbers in it and I feel bad for letting my guards down this time and spreading misinformation. Won’t happen again.

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      19 days ago

      All the people taking this lightly, wildly underestimate the effect the richest man in the world has on public discourse. This guy is taking heads of state to task, threatening democracy.

      I hope he trips up and gets X banned… but we need to be way more radical in protecting our democracy.

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    20 days ago

    It’s really annoying how this guy never complains about what actual autocracies are doing; never a peep complaining about the times they ask for things to be removed from Twitter. Just hand wringing about needing to follow the law to operate in those places. Hypocrite

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      20 days ago

      Welcome to politics, there’s all sorts going on that we know nothing about that will influence who says what about whom, when and why. Hypocrisy is irrelevant to these people. He’s just influencing.

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    Jesus Christ Russia have absolutely nailed this part of their geopolitical play.

    They’ve basically got 2 members of, if not an entire, US government under their thumb, they’ve corrupted the EU to make one of their major contributors to leave (thinking the US is on their side, idiotically), and they’ve got good relations with the other superpower (china).

    Annoyingly, it looks like the EU which is the most, even if not enough, “for the people” political establishment in our world today is going to get screwed over the next decade or so.

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        18 days ago

        No and this is a stupid idea that just exists to justify fascism. We have many books about abuse and arguing in good faith and philosophy for this reason.

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          Are you dumb or do you just see fascists everywhere? It’s pretty obvious that not having having handicaps like morality or legality gives you an advantage against those who are abide by them, just look at the world.

          It’s not a justification it’s an observation

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            Well, this is back from Plato’s Republic days, sorry I thought we all were up to date on thousands of years old references. The argument is that democracy always fails to bad faith actors, and democracy always fails. Arguments against democracy are fascist at their core. Democracy itself can be defended from bad faith actors of course, so it’s a simplistic, stupid statement made by someone who is advocating for one thing only: anti-democracy, or fascism.

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              18 days ago

              Democracy itself can be defended from bad faith actors of course

              How? Please elaborate don’t just say of course

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                Oh, you need me to look up what arguing in good faith is, all the way back to Socrates? You want me to explain the history of our modern court system and how it is entirely based on Western philosophical reasoning which are based on Arabic, Indian, and Chinese philosophical reasonings via the Silk Road? That this idea that democracy will always have a dictator has been confronted by people for thousands of years so they can live in a government with both freedom and safety, and thus modern philosophical ideas about democracy spring from that.

                Things like what ‘sophistry’ is. Or do you just want me to post a fallacy chart? Or maybe you just need to read book recommendations like “Stop Caretaking the Borderline or Narcissist.”

                We give each other information in a way that is democratic- individually consensual. Each person must then be taught skills to learn bad faith advances. However, here in the US, we let people be taken advantage of by marketing and capitalism and we neglected this in schools. This is why we aren’t doing well and why Russian propaganda worked so well - it relies on heuristics that most people recognize once they get a philosophical education in fallacies.

                If democracies always failed, then there would literally never be a stable democracy. That there are, indicates that the simplistic idea they will always fail to bad faith actors is incorrect.

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                  I bet the Romans thought their empire and system was very stable, everything is stable if you choose the right timeframe. Our democracies may seem stable, for now…

                  Also history is not a good indicator because mass media and the internet changed the playing field in ways that are not comparable to any other period in history.

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        15 days ago

        Are you kidding? America is easily the least honest place in the entire world. In a country of lying, scheming conmen grifters the most confident grifter is king.

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    19 days ago

    He’s got such a hate boner for Kier Starmer that I’m kind of intrigued. Starmer is the most boring, beaurocratic politician you can find. I can’t understand what’s triggered this latest Musk mania.

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      He’s a prosecutor who apparently can’t be bought.

      https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/13/tax-authorities-should-prosecute-evaders-keir-starmer

      That’s far more dangerous to a billionaire than a firebrand.

      If Starner only delivers a non-corrupt legal system it’ll be an incredible win for the Country. But I do think he needs 10 years in office so he should focus on actually winning the next election.

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        Saying he can’t be bought when he had to explain a metric fuck-ton of gifts he received from donors, from Arsenal season tickets to an insane amount on glasses, and multiple tickets to Taylor Swift, indicates a man that can very easily be bought.

        In theory, a Sir that is known for being a chief prosecutor should be the hardest person to buy…but that’s the joy of politics I guess.

        IMO Kier is a bit of a bellend, but a vast improvement on the shower of cunts in the Tory party. What I would love to see him implement is a true UK constitution to ensure that any wrongdoing in office results in criminal proceedings. Those in politics should be held to the highest standard, and if you’re caught taking bribes, selling access to friends, or abusing lower workers while in office you should be banned from holding office AND see jail time.

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          It remains to be seen what he’s actually done to benefit anyone who gave him anything.

          And he stopped accepting them once he entered the office. We found out because he told us about it all and the mistake of accepting some gifts a bit too late.

          With the only arguable benefits being publicity for the brand it’s not nothing but it really is daft the perspective tricks that have been played with that particular molehill. It’s the press that actually gave the gifters the benefits, not any actions by Starner himself.

          Being given something isn’t proof of being bought. Acting for the person who gave you something is.

          I predict that as the COVID era corruption comes to light his previous job will result in him prosecuting and recovering quite a lot of public money. Sadly I don’t think he will get a result of jail time for anyone. The laws just aren’t in place for that and he can’t get them made retrospectively.

          A UK constitution would be very interesting. But I’d just settle for some actual laws specifically against corruption rather than relying on MPs following conventions and being honourable.

          The shocking thing is that hundreds of millions of pounds worth of corruption through the “fast lane” wasn’t illegal to do. We’ll only be able to recoup from the companies who actually didn’t deliver their contracts.

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        It’s very hard to OD on, it’s hard to find definitive numbers but some list the LD50 at 60mg/kg which means it would be over 4 grams for most people.

        Edit: taking this moment to take issue with the phrasing most newspapers used for Matthew Perry’s ketamine “overdose” in which they blamed his death on the acute effects of the drug only to go on to say that he died from drowning after losing consciousness. If the drowning killed him it was not, by definition, the acute effects of the drug, but thanks for saying so and ruining the reputation of one the most effective treatments for depression we’ve ever seen and just an all around very impressive substance.

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      I seriously doubt he would die from an overdose. Musk probably has aides around him at all times who will help him if he even remotely seemed like he ODed on anything.

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          MJ died because his doctor needed to take a bathroom break and his condition went critical in that moment. If his doctor has a bucket to piss in he would have survived.

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    Elon musks death would create a great trickle down effect as his assets were carved up by various corporations and inheritors. It would be a new golden age.

    Right now its all being hoarded in texas in a garage where Musk sleeps and pisses on a pile of deeds and gold like a little pink pig dragon.

    So if Kier Starmer had the balls to do the right thing he’d take care of this issue old school.

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      Could just asset forfeiture him without the death. Asset forfeiture anyone who helps him, too, including giving him water. Let him wander around like a homeless person. Let him drink out of puddles and kill rats for food. Let him enjoy the world like he wants, with no one in it to help him. He wants us all to be dead, let us be dead to him.

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        People like you need to wake up and realize that this is why guillotines were created and stop sniveling at the feet of sociopathic billionaires who have never, and will never, give two shits about you or anything or anyone you ever care about.

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    Lol, put that police state to use and get that X bullshit out of your countries so you don’t have to deal with his lame blackmail attempts anymore. This is far more blatant and insidious than TikTok ever was. Let him boost away in his own little bubble of delusional Americans and Russian bots.

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    If I didn’t already think that Musk is a fucking shithead, him stanning for Tommy fucking Robinson would have sealed it.

    Tommy Fucking Robinson (or Stephen Yaxley-Fucking-Lennon to give him his actual name) is the worst. A racist thug through and through, who, by being banged up, is in the right place.

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    20 days ago

    I hate that this piece of shit is so young…

    I’m going to have to wait a lonnnnnng time to piss on his grave :(