This is one of the things that bother me with people being anti-trans. Why the hell do they care? There is nothing, NOTHING that trans people are asking for that bother me, because it does not affect my life. I don’t see how it affects theirs either.
There are two things I know little about when it comes to trans.
How to make it fair in sports, but I really don’t care for sports. So I haven’t researched it. Don’t really care if they participate, but I don’t take sports seriously anyways.
How to protect vulnerable people from themselves. This is probably contraversial, but I am for giving trans people the treatment they need to transition, or at least make sure it is possible at a later stage by giving hormones / blockers. So that they can transition a bit older.
However (the controversial part) many trans people are vulnerable and also struggle with other issues and operations is often permanent. This is something that I don’t believe is easy to decide, I am ignorant here, I trust medical professionals, psychologists, psychiatrists and the trans community to come up with guidelines / practice here. It is however not something that I think politicians should decide, or is competent in deciding.
The only reason I care about point 2 is to protect people from mistakes, not to stop trans people from transitioning!
How to make it fair in sports, but I really don’t care for sports. So I haven’t researched it. Don’t really care if they participate, but I don’t take sports seriously anyways.
I personally don’t think sports should be gendered, but people should be placed in different “leagues”.
Similar to how chess players with similar ratings play with each other.
Atheletes should be categorized by skill, regardless of gender.
Fun fact, a recent study reported that cis women have an advantage over trans women in sports due to their higher testosterone levels allowing them to build more muscle mass.
You know, the same argument transphobes use against letting trans people be athletes because of their supposed “biological advantage.”
Which is the same one that’s been used for almost a century now to ban black women from women’s sports due to their naturally higher testosterone levels when compared to white women.
Fun fact, a recent study reported that cis women have an advantage over trans women in sports due to their higher testosterone levels allowing them to build more muscle mass.
It’s more nuanced than that. It depends on how long you’ve lived as a male before transitioning and how long ago you transitioned. Also not all trans people are taking hormones.
How long you’ve been taking hormones is the important part. How long you’ve lived as amab only really matters until a certain point, as it’s very difficult to maintain muscle mass from before you started hormones. And afab people have to build up muscle mass even when they start taking testosterone.
And yes, not every trans person is taking hormones or even will. But I have yet to hear of a single example of a trans person in regulated sports who wasn’t competing in the division of their gender while on HRT. Even the preteen kids were on puberty blockers.
Atheletes should be categorized by skill, regardless of gender.
Radical feminists don’t want that kind of equality, and it could get the ball rolling for equivalent pay for male models / adult film actors. I lack any strong opinion on the subject but have no interest personally in watching men’s beach volleyball. -When you disregard the draw of the event when it comes to pay; you’re messing with the financials surrounding the event. -May as well go full bore communism then. Let people be forced to work and starve so they can learn that capitalism and the traditional ways (outside of religious influence) weren’t so bad.
Let people be forced to work and starve so they can learn that capitalism and the traditional ways (outside of religious influence) weren’t so bad.
Do you really think people aren’t already being forced to work and starve under capitalism? How much do you think your job pays the janitor? What about fast food workers? Mailmen? Do you think they’re all living comfortably and can easily afford food and rent?
They only care because they were told to care. It’s a distraction and satisfies their desire to punch down on vulnerable people. They are spineless cucks who want daddy trump to tell them what to think.
I think you underestimate the degree to which late 2010’s pronoun compliance demands superceded the “live and let live” mantra the success of the LGBT movement depended on.
Yeah, I’ll be honest and say that I do not understand what it means to be transgender. And I will never understand. It doesn’t matter how many trans friends I have or how many times people try to explain it to me. I won’t ever fully get it.
But why in the ever living fuck should it matter whether or not I get it? Just let people live how they want to live!! I don’t understand why it’s so complicated for Christian fundies to understand that. How in the world are trans people harming anyone by existing? You don’t have to “get it” to understand that people just want to live their fucking lives in peace.
One of the biggest things people bring up is the sports issue, like you said. To people’s credit, I actually don’t think there’s a great solution to the sports problem. But pro athlete trans people make up only a tiny fraction of trans people so I don’t understand why it should randomly be used to invalidate all trans people.
Just let people live how they want to live!! I don’t understand why it’s so complicated for Christian fundies to understand that.
What makes you think Christian fundies have ever been about “Just let people live how they want to live!!” which appears to be a 1970’s hippie inspired slogan?
Almost the complete opposite of what Christians and Jews and especially Muslims are about.
because muslims have a book with instructions from a being that lives in outer space that tells them that sexual deviancy is morally reprehensible and shouldn’t be encouraged or allowe
This is one of the things that bother me with people being anti-trans. Why the hell do they care? There is nothing, NOTHING that trans people are asking for that bother me, because it does not affect my life. I don’t see how it affects theirs either.
There are two things I know little about when it comes to trans.
How to make it fair in sports, but I really don’t care for sports. So I haven’t researched it. Don’t really care if they participate, but I don’t take sports seriously anyways.
How to protect vulnerable people from themselves. This is probably contraversial, but I am for giving trans people the treatment they need to transition, or at least make sure it is possible at a later stage by giving hormones / blockers. So that they can transition a bit older.
However (the controversial part) many trans people are vulnerable and also struggle with other issues and operations is often permanent. This is something that I don’t believe is easy to decide, I am ignorant here, I trust medical professionals, psychologists, psychiatrists and the trans community to come up with guidelines / practice here. It is however not something that I think politicians should decide, or is competent in deciding.
The only reason I care about point 2 is to protect people from mistakes, not to stop trans people from transitioning!
Thanks for reading my rant 😊
I personally don’t think sports should be gendered, but people should be placed in different “leagues”.
Similar to how chess players with similar ratings play with each other.
Atheletes should be categorized by skill, regardless of gender.
Fun fact, a recent study reported that cis women have an advantage over trans women in sports due to their higher testosterone levels allowing them to build more muscle mass.
You know, the same argument transphobes use against letting trans people be athletes because of their supposed “biological advantage.”
Which is the same one that’s been used for almost a century now to ban black women from women’s sports due to their naturally higher testosterone levels when compared to white women.
As if they give a shit about science. They only use it when the results match their worldview. Otherwise they just ignore it.
Accurate.
It’s more nuanced than that. It depends on how long you’ve lived as a male before transitioning and how long ago you transitioned. Also not all trans people are taking hormones.
How long you’ve been taking hormones is the important part. How long you’ve lived as amab only really matters until a certain point, as it’s very difficult to maintain muscle mass from before you started hormones. And afab people have to build up muscle mass even when they start taking testosterone.
And yes, not every trans person is taking hormones or even will. But I have yet to hear of a single example of a trans person in regulated sports who wasn’t competing in the division of their gender while on HRT. Even the preteen kids were on puberty blockers.
Glad they finally got around to proving that. It’s been obvious in a theoretical sense for a long time.
it’s already the case. nothing is stopping women competing in so called male leagues. I wonder why they don’t … must be the patriarchy.
Is there anything stopping males from competing in female leagues?
Grills have cooties
Feminists gaslighting & moving goalposts
Radical feminists don’t want that kind of equality, and it could get the ball rolling for equivalent pay for male models / adult film actors. I lack any strong opinion on the subject but have no interest personally in watching men’s beach volleyball. -When you disregard the draw of the event when it comes to pay; you’re messing with the financials surrounding the event. -May as well go full bore communism then. Let people be forced to work and starve so they can learn that capitalism and the traditional ways (outside of religious influence) weren’t so bad.
This is a pretty fucked up opinion
Do you really think people aren’t already being forced to work and starve under capitalism? How much do you think your job pays the janitor? What about fast food workers? Mailmen? Do you think they’re all living comfortably and can easily afford food and rent?
Did you think about: They’re icky?
… 🙄
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They only care because they were told to care. It’s a distraction and satisfies their desire to punch down on vulnerable people. They are spineless cucks who want daddy trump to tell them what to think.
I think you underestimate the degree to which late 2010’s pronoun compliance demands superceded the “live and let live” mantra the success of the LGBT movement depended on.
Nailed it.
Yeah, I’ll be honest and say that I do not understand what it means to be transgender. And I will never understand. It doesn’t matter how many trans friends I have or how many times people try to explain it to me. I won’t ever fully get it.
But why in the ever living fuck should it matter whether or not I get it? Just let people live how they want to live!! I don’t understand why it’s so complicated for Christian fundies to understand that. How in the world are trans people harming anyone by existing? You don’t have to “get it” to understand that people just want to live their fucking lives in peace.
One of the biggest things people bring up is the sports issue, like you said. To people’s credit, I actually don’t think there’s a great solution to the sports problem. But pro athlete trans people make up only a tiny fraction of trans people so I don’t understand why it should randomly be used to invalidate all trans people.
What makes you think Christian fundies have ever been about “Just let people live how they want to live!!” which appears to be a 1970’s hippie inspired slogan?
Almost the complete opposite of what Christians and Jews and especially Muslims are about.
Well I know they aren’t. I just don’t understand why they aren’t.
because muslims have a book with instructions from a being that lives in outer space that tells them that sexual deviancy is morally reprehensible and shouldn’t be encouraged or allowe
Nobody actually cares.