All of this is just a distraction anyway. It’s rich vs poor always has been. We have a huge group of people that should really be allies but are brainwashed against their own interests. It’s easy to say they’re on the wrong side but we should really be looking to mend the divide in ways that we can rather than further it by stating how morally superior we are.
Of course rich folk will look for allies among poor folk. Play off the people against each other. This strategy is centuries old … no wait, millennia old.
You don’t mend a divide. That’s pointing to the divide as the problem, when the real problem is discrimination.
No, the real problem is hatred. Bigots hate the people they are bigoted against. That is not a rich vs. poor thing. I’ve gotten attacked by more than one poor bigot. Plenty of people from minority communities have.
This whole idea where everyone but the rich will get together and sing kumbaya and then win the class war and create a utopia is ridiculously naive and, as far as I can think, only comes from people who have never had a bigot get into their face and hate them because of who they are.
by attacking the media structures and funding that manipulate them. (this is not a fix all solution. obviously. but it is taking action against the most materially funded arm of the propagation of conservative values. i hope it can be one of many tools leftists use to push for justice and dignity.)
in a crazy twist, both parents and conservative media exist. and what world do you live in? i see conservative media call for homophobia and homophobic violence all the fucking time.
You want queer people and people of color to make up with people who would literally kill them because they’re both not rich. Do you think that’s what those bigots want? Do you think if a queer couple went over to some violent queerphobe’s home in a trailer park with a bouquet of flowers it would go well for them?
Do you know how many queer people are murdered in the U.S. every year? Here’s a link to the 2024 list.
I offered a systemic solution to one element of a systemic problem and now you are getting angry at me that my single-faceted solution doesn’t cover every minute facet of social change. I am sorry that you cannot accept a single marginal suggestion without going into full on rage mode. Ending the conversation here.
Do you think it’s a coincidence our media is full of low quality “Woke Shit” that pretends to be progressive but is just the “Worst of Rainbow Capitalism”
That was those bastards manufacturing consent. “Sorry guys, we have to censor your media the gays made us do it!”
Do you really think bigots would somehow disappear if the media disappeared?
Bigotry has existed since the first proto-hominid caved in the head of the other proto-hominid on the other side of the hill because his fur was a different shade of brown.
There’s not some magical point where everyone will live in harmony and unite against the rich.
Nope, but it wouldn’t be at THIS level. We somehow went from “Mainstream Trans Acceptance” to “Democrats thirst for Transblood because it’s THEIR fault Trump won! Because they were playing women’s sports while diddling people in the bathroom!” over-fucking-night.
Two months ago when the media had to pretend that “Gender dysphoria doesn’t exist! They’re sending Sylvester Stallone in a fucking dress to your little girl’s soccer game!” was a fucking far right conspiracy theory no one took seriously, instead of a far right conspiracy theory loved by fucking everyone apparently.
It’s not that strange when you consider they are a major tool in the class war. We do still have elections, and so whoever the ownership class can’t buy they need to have their outlets convince us not to vote for.
There is no “unbiased” media when it’s corporate media.
When they stop trying to hurt my friends, I’ll be the first to present an olive branch. Yes, we should create class solidarity, but you can educate the willfully ignorant.
All of this is just a distraction anyway. It’s rich vs poor always has been. We have a huge group of people that should really be allies but are brainwashed against their own interests. It’s easy to say they’re on the wrong side but we should really be looking to mend the divide in ways that we can rather than further it by stating how morally superior we are.
This rich vs. poor thing would be a hell of a lot more believable if there weren’t so many poor people who were gigantic fucking bigots.
How do you mend a divide between people who exist and people who hate their existence?
Of course rich folk will look for allies among poor folk. Play off the people against each other. This strategy is centuries old … no wait, millennia old.
You don’t mend a divide. That’s pointing to the divide as the problem, when the real problem is discrimination.
No, the real problem is hatred. Bigots hate the people they are bigoted against. That is not a rich vs. poor thing. I’ve gotten attacked by more than one poor bigot. Plenty of people from minority communities have.
This whole idea where everyone but the rich will get together and sing kumbaya and then win the class war and create a utopia is ridiculously naive and, as far as I can think, only comes from people who have never had a bigot get into their face and hate them because of who they are.
by attacking the media structures and funding that manipulate them. (this is not a fix all solution. obviously. but it is taking action against the most materially funded arm of the propagation of conservative values. i hope it can be one of many tools leftists use to push for justice and dignity.)
Their parents manipulate them.
The “media structures” aren’t the ones telling them to yell the F- word at queer people or just straight up murder them.
in a crazy twist, both parents and conservative media exist. and what world do you live in? i see conservative media call for homophobia and homophobic violence all the fucking time.
And those parents would still exist regardless.
More to the point, these bigots exist right now.
You want queer people and people of color to make up with people who would literally kill them because they’re both not rich. Do you think that’s what those bigots want? Do you think if a queer couple went over to some violent queerphobe’s home in a trailer park with a bouquet of flowers it would go well for them?
Do you know how many queer people are murdered in the U.S. every year? Here’s a link to the 2024 list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBTQ_people_in_the_United_States#2024
It’s not the billionaires doing the murdering.
I offered a systemic solution to one element of a systemic problem and now you are getting angry at me that my single-faceted solution doesn’t cover every minute facet of social change. I am sorry that you cannot accept a single marginal suggestion without going into full on rage mode. Ending the conversation here.
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Do you think it’s a coincidence our media is full of low quality “Woke Shit” that pretends to be progressive but is just the “Worst of Rainbow Capitalism”
That was those bastards manufacturing consent. “Sorry guys, we have to censor your media the gays made us do it!”
Do you really think bigots would somehow disappear if the media disappeared?
Bigotry has existed since the first proto-hominid caved in the head of the other proto-hominid on the other side of the hill because his fur was a different shade of brown.
There’s not some magical point where everyone will live in harmony and unite against the rich.
Nope, but it wouldn’t be at THIS level. We somehow went from “Mainstream Trans Acceptance” to “Democrats thirst for Transblood because it’s THEIR fault Trump won! Because they were playing women’s sports while diddling people in the bathroom!” over-fucking-night.
When did we have mainstream trans acceptance? I’d love to hear about that utopian era.
Two months ago when the media had to pretend that “Gender dysphoria doesn’t exist! They’re sending Sylvester Stallone in a fucking dress to your little girl’s soccer game!” was a fucking far right conspiracy theory no one took seriously, instead of a far right conspiracy theory loved by fucking everyone apparently.
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Agreed. It’s uncanny how no news source wants to call out the class divide and instead focuses on the partisan divide
It’s not that strange when you consider they are a major tool in the class war. We do still have elections, and so whoever the ownership class can’t buy they need to have their outlets convince us not to vote for.
There is no “unbiased” media when it’s corporate media.
When they stop trying to hurt my friends, I’ll be the first to present an olive branch. Yes, we should create class solidarity, but you can educate the willfully ignorant.