“To the Feds, I’ll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn’t working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”

Post got removed in .world for not being a “news source” even though Klippenstein is definitely a very established independent journalist, so trying again here I guess.

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    Is that 3 or 250 page copy?

    Asking for a friend.

    I have a weird feeling they are making this shit up as they go.

    The info drip drives us where they want us talking at every turn.

    Nobody is talking about the dead parasite or the corruption. I think they are looking for this to blow over.

    Job is done, back to work peasants you got premiums to pay. Don’t ya?

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        286, same as the amount of people he was following on twitter, distance the McDonald’s was from the scene, and the Pokémon index id of the one in his Twitter banner.

        Proverb 28:6

        Better is a poor man who walks in his integrity than a rich man who is crooked in his ways.

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          I guess it depends on how you count…

          262 words here:

          https://www.tmz.com/2024/12/10/luigi-mangione-manifesto-revealed/

          Also 262 words:

          https://www.mediaite.com/crime/heres-the-brief-manifesto-luigi-mangione-addressed-to-the-feds/

          Using your methodology, Proverbs 26:2

          As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come.

          Hmm… I never did like the King James version.

          https://morningstarinfosys.com/proverbs/

          As the sparrow escapes, and the swallow flies away, so the undeserved curse will never hit its mark.

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            You’re really having this conversation here…

            … while simultaneously being part of the mod team that bans this source and topic in all the .world instances you moderate?

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              The link was removed from politics because a) we don’t allow blog posts, substack or otherwise and 2) It’s not political, it’s criminal. Belongs in News.

              It was removed from World News because World News explicitly bars internal US News, which this is. World News exists to give news from other countries room to breathe.

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                I mean at this point it’s whatever, but I did post it in News originally. It got removed for not being a “reputable news source” based on the modlog, but the current post about it in the same community is from Gizmodo, which is fine, but the only source they have for the manifesto is literally this link.

                I get that it’s on a substack, but just because a journalist publishes using substack and not some other web template (even though the site is their own URL, and the author is an independent journalist who worked at several fairly well known news orgs) doesn’t mean it’s not reputable. It just feels very arbitrary.

                Also you guys clearly don’t seem to ban substack, since there are multiple posts currently up that have been posted a day ago in one case, and 16 hours ago in the other, one of which is literally also from ken klippenstein. So why is it fine sometimes but not othertimes? I don’t necessarily have an issue with a broad ban of any substack link (even though I personally think that would be kinda dumb), but that fact that it’s so inconsistently enforced isn’t good.

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                  The problem with Substack, or Medium, or Blogger or any other blog site is that anyone can post anything. It’s not a news platform.

                  Rather than go through each blog and go “OK, who is THIS guy? What’s their deal?” we just go “Yeah, no.”

                  Allowing some but not others would be an even BIGGER headache, because then it’s clear Substack is fine for one person but not another.

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                    But like I said, News currently has multiple recent posts from multiple different substack blogs. One of which was posted by FlyingSquid, a moderator of the WorldNews community.

                    If the blog is private, from a unique URL, and is run by an independent journalist or group of journalists, how is that any more effort than checking any other type of website? I could steal a HTML/CSS template for a news site right now, whip up a site where I post misinformation, and buy a domain for like 10 bucks, and you’d have to go through a lot more effort to verify it as legit than it would take to open the substack blog, click about, and copy the name into your search engine.

                    If an article is by something like apnews then yeah it doesn’t take much effort to check, but if it’s by some other random page, like a lot of the posted articles are, you’d need to check it at least once before you knew it was fine, so what specifically about substack makes it a problem?

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                    I think you’re putting in more effort here than these folks deserve 😂 Regardless of how much I like or dislike the rules of those particular .world communities, I understand them, and I understand why they are the way that they are.

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                    Also you guys clearly don’t seem to ban substack, since there are multiple posts currently up that have been posted a day ago in one case, and 16 hours ago in the other, one of which is literally also from ken klippenstein. So why is it fine sometimes but not othertimes? I don’t necessarily have an issue with a broad ban of any substack link (even though I personally think that would be kinda dumb), but that fact that it’s so inconsistently enforced isn’t good.

                    Bruh. Everyone sees you for who you really are. Stop acting like they don’t.

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            Oh I was assuming based on all the other stuff.

            Luigi Mangione had 286 Tweets

            He posted a photo of the 286th Pokémon

            His cousin follows 286 people on Twitter

            The “denial code” 286 is when the appeal time limits for a healthcare claim are not met

            He was caught at a McDonalds "286 miles away”

            Seems odd to plan all that and stop 2 dozen words short.

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              That youtube video suggested DEC 11 something.

              Also 286 preverbs also got a zinger message

              I guess all of this could be a coincidence every high attention event generally some weird number and pattern. I am starting to think that if you look close enough there is always one.

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            McDs to Hilton Dt Manhatten gives me 283, guess its one of the other McDs though

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          I’ve only seen 250 words stated. But all of those people could have been referencing the same incorrect source.

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      I don’t know what’s so suspicious. The manifesto’s pretty clear and* to the point and what I’d expect. Certainly not what I’d expect some leech to make up to make him look crazy.

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        Strong point it is pretty direct and to the point. Apparently reddit suppressing it.

        I am not sure why even try, this the hotest piece of text content released in decades or century

        If he posted under his Twitter account, he would prolly hit 10millie subs within few days lol

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          Eh, it’s really not all that exciting. It’s more a note to police with a brief motive outline than a manifesto. That’s not a diss. With the words on the casings the act was manifesto in and of itself. In fact I think this gives a much smaller character attack surface than a long rambling manifesto could.

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      Making it up? Lemme tell you a secret:

      If you want to fight this the easiest way is to blow the man up into legend status. Create a martyr. Play their game. Imo at least.

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        I am starting to lose faith that Luigi is the Adjuster tbh

        Media is working too hard to protray Luigi as him but so far if we look at verifable facts:

        1. parasites gets done in NYC
        2. five days letter they apprehend a young man in PA
        3. Who happens to have the entire conviction start park on his person (could easily be planted by them) along with that YouTube video which they could have easily done to spice things ip Up
        4. he has been missing for a few weeks allegedly and has had health issues (this part is where they set him up so viable lead)

        But where is the evidence that he actually did the job?

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          Couldn’t help but notice you in several threads doubting everything. Don’t think you ever bought any of it. You sound conspiratorial