What China can do is help developing nations build out infrastructure and transfer technology to these nations to help them bootstrap their domestic industries. And this is precisely what China has been doing with great success.
building infrastructure and dams , bridges will not change the mindset of peoples in Pakistan , Africa and Asia , they have to get out of their own feudal mindset , tribalism and religious extremism , class struggle matters and those infrastructure cannot be maintained by China forever . Those countries have to develop their own productivity and have to industrialize themselves by offering minerals and resources not for free but for higher prices and good technology transfer. Just like how China developed its tech by selling cheap labor force initially .
Please refrain from arguing in bad faith. If you disagree with someone, ask questions and clarify your position. You’re in a dedicated community so don’t assume that people are just going around saying stupid things out of their asses.
Bro is it a wholesome china simp community where you just assume china will bring socialism in every by building infrastructure. Soviets built lots of infrastructure in India, didn’t make India a good country 🤣
Who’s actually assuming China is bringing socialism by building infrastructure? It’s about building productive forces, who else is doing that? Feels pretty insulting to call is a “China simp community”
The “mindset” of the people of these countries is a result of their current stage of development, to get out of that “mindset” they need to develop their productive forces, sure they can do it by “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps” but its going to take much longer than with the help of China.
China can never solve the internal politics, thats why Pakistan is a military junta and the whole sahel region of Africa is suffering. You china admiring people are forgetting that class struggle exists everywhere and it will not get evaporated by Chinese infrastructure development. Rails and others infrastructure can be only be used if public has education and industrial belts. They have to get of their own feudalistic mindset which has nothing to do with china or Russia. .
Okay it’s obvious you have not read theory. Through the lens of historical materialism, aka the material conception of history developed with dialectics, we reached the conclusion that production is the chief determinant force of development, quantitative changes in production lead to qualitative changes in society.
The “mindset” from these underdeveloped countries is precisely a product of their underdevelopment, not the other way around like you imply. That is the reason we support China policies on developing global south infrastructure, because developing the productive forces (the instruments and people who carry on production) IS the way to develop society. It is not because we are blindly “chinese simps”.
Obligatory book recomendation, “Historical and dialectical materialism” by Stalin.
Changing material conditions to foster the development of a proletarian class is a solid theory of how to build working class power and consciousness. You might deride it as just infrastructure, but the workers who maintain and transport goods on that infrastructure (as well as the people who provide goods and services to those workers, and so on and so forth) now have more economic power and ability to organize in solidarity with each other than subsistence farmers would have against their landlords. And before anyone can build, say, a tractor factory, there must first be adequate infrastructure to supply said factory and take its finished goods to internal as well as potentially foreign markets.
It’s always up to the people of the country to improve their own situation, and communism cannot be imposed on them externally. However, countries can help improve material conditions and alleviate the suffering. This is what China does.
Exactly, ultimately what China does is improve the material conditions of plundered global south countries so they’re more likely to take the revolutionary road. China learned from the URSS post-Stalin awful foreign policy.
What China can do is help developing nations build out infrastructure and transfer technology to these nations to help them bootstrap their domestic industries. And this is precisely what China has been doing with great success.
building infrastructure and dams , bridges will not change the mindset of peoples in Pakistan , Africa and Asia , they have to get out of their own feudal mindset , tribalism and religious extremism , class struggle matters and those infrastructure cannot be maintained by China forever . Those countries have to develop their own productivity and have to industrialize themselves by offering minerals and resources not for free but for higher prices and good technology transfer. Just like how China developed its tech by selling cheap labor force initially .
Please refrain from arguing in bad faith. If you disagree with someone, ask questions and clarify your position. You’re in a dedicated community so don’t assume that people are just going around saying stupid things out of their asses.
Bro is it a wholesome china simp community where you just assume china will bring socialism in every by building infrastructure. Soviets built lots of infrastructure in India, didn’t make India a good country 🤣
Who’s actually assuming China is bringing socialism by building infrastructure? It’s about building productive forces, who else is doing that? Feels pretty insulting to call is a “China simp community”
The “mindset” of the people of these countries is a result of their current stage of development, to get out of that “mindset” they need to develop their productive forces, sure they can do it by “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps” but its going to take much longer than with the help of China.
China can never solve the internal politics, thats why Pakistan is a military junta and the whole sahel region of Africa is suffering. You china admiring people are forgetting that class struggle exists everywhere and it will not get evaporated by Chinese infrastructure development. Rails and others infrastructure can be only be used if public has education and industrial belts. They have to get of their own feudalistic mindset which has nothing to do with china or Russia. .
Okay it’s obvious you have not read theory. Through the lens of historical materialism, aka the material conception of history developed with dialectics, we reached the conclusion that production is the chief determinant force of development, quantitative changes in production lead to qualitative changes in society.
The “mindset” from these underdeveloped countries is precisely a product of their underdevelopment, not the other way around like you imply. That is the reason we support China policies on developing global south infrastructure, because developing the productive forces (the instruments and people who carry on production) IS the way to develop society. It is not because we are blindly “chinese simps”.
Obligatory book recomendation, “Historical and dialectical materialism” by Stalin.
Changing material conditions to foster the development of a proletarian class is a solid theory of how to build working class power and consciousness. You might deride it as just infrastructure, but the workers who maintain and transport goods on that infrastructure (as well as the people who provide goods and services to those workers, and so on and so forth) now have more economic power and ability to organize in solidarity with each other than subsistence farmers would have against their landlords. And before anyone can build, say, a tractor factory, there must first be adequate infrastructure to supply said factory and take its finished goods to internal as well as potentially foreign markets.
The surest sign that infrastructure is good for social and political development is that the US keeps destroying it.
It’s always up to the people of the country to improve their own situation, and communism cannot be imposed on them externally. However, countries can help improve material conditions and alleviate the suffering. This is what China does.
Exactly, ultimately what China does is improve the material conditions of plundered global south countries so they’re more likely to take the revolutionary road. China learned from the URSS post-Stalin awful foreign policy.