• Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Reminds me of the leftist venezuelan regime monthly rations in the form of cajas clap.

    Absolutely disgusting food.

    Thank goodness I was able to escape the dictatorship with my family

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      Thank you for posting this. I don’t understand what a lot of those foods are. It looks like a heck of a lot of it is pasta/noodles based though. And maybe milk powder? Where is the protein other than the canned tuna(?) up at the top.

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        That was it. No more than that. Worst thing is that almost all this products are from Mexico. Before the collectivists and leftists took power in Venezuela, we used to make all these products

        Left to right

        4 blue pasta packages, 200 grams each

        4 green rice packages, 1 kg

        4 yellow spaghetti packs. 200 grams each

        6 shredded tuna cans. 130 grams each

        1 oil bottle. 1 liter

        2 red bottles, tomato sauce/ketchup. 220 grams each

        2 orange packs, corn flour, 1kg each

        1 pack of refined sugar, 1kg

        1 white pack, dry whole milk, 500 grams

        2 green packs, black beans, 1kg each

        3 yellow packs, egg spaghetti, 290 grams each

        3 red packs, elbow shaped spaghetti , 200 grams each

        1 blue pack, lentils, 1 kg

        Take into account that this is supposed to last a family of 4 a month. If it ever arrives.

        Because it’s assigned per family

        Also, as most of these products are from Mexico, the transportation is not the best and most of the time they arrive corroded, open by rats, or with less or very different products than advertised

        So yeah I’m glad I escaped the collectivistic hellhole with my family mostly intact

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    3 days ago

    That’s not enough butter. I would have been put down young for rioting about criminally low amounts of butter.

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        Hunt shit that’s a lot. I use about 10 grams per portion of 1 meal, usually breakfast.

        I don’t eat that daily but even like that, 30 full days non stop , that’s like 300 grams

        What the hell are you guys doing up there with a pound of butter?

        Oh no, don’t tell me. I don’t want to know

  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    This is what Conservatives around the world want and glory hallelujah we are almost there! The only difference is all those rations will not come from the government but from corporations paid for by the government.

    • 4 boxes Kraft Mac and Cheese
    • 6 cans Heinz Beans
    • Etc.
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    3 days ago

    This thread is basically:

    Scarcity in socialist countries 40 years ago: pearl clutching.

    Scarcity in capitalist countries fucking now: yawn.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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      Bruh, you can buy more flour than that with change dropped in a fucking parking lot.

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        Good so we got flour figured out. How many homeless people did Poland have in the 1980s? How many does it have now?

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          Good so we got flour figured out. How many homeless people did Poland have in the 1980s?

          Uncertain, because like the Soviet Union, homelessness was illegal and official stats weren’t kept. Nevertheless, ‘vagrancy’ was a serious and recurring problem in Warsaw Pact states.

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      3 days ago

      average smoker smokes about 20 cigarettes a day. so it’s a little less than half of a monthly use of cigarettes.

      from what i understand the ration was meant to supplement what you consume, not provide everything

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        Is 20 cigs a day honestly the average nowadays?? Mind blowing and sad. My mum who was an addicted smoker since she was 10 years of age and went through maybe 5 to 10 cigs a day.

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          it’s been the average for a long time. it’s due to nicotine’s pharmacological effects. its half life is roughly 1~2 hours. so a smoker on average will feel the compulsion to smoke an hour or so after the last cigarette. since most people are awake somewhere 16 hours a day, that’s about ~16 cigarettes a day.

          your mom’s smoking habits were definitely atypical

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      For a month? It’s just dried shredded leaves wrapped in paper, cigarettes are super cheap to produce, tax makes them expensive.

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      You didn’t live in the eighties I bet. It was cheap back then and everyone smoked.

  • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    Can someone calculate the calories in that? I’m too lazy.

    Maybe don’t include the sugar. That’s a shit ton of sugar to go through in month.

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      3 days ago

      Ballpark estimate, excluding the sugar:

      2.5kg beef: ~6265 Calories

      0.5l vodka: ~1082 Calories

      1.3kg white rice: ~4743 Calories

      1.3kg flour: ~4732 Calories

      500g butter: ~3585 Calories

      300g cooking oil (Google says rapeseed oil is popular in Poland so I used that): ~2652 Calories

      250g chocolate: ~1338 Calories

      Total: 24,397 Calories or ~813 Calories per day

      Some other people online also did the math and came up with similar numbers. For example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37027027 came up with 33,063 Calories (including the sugar)

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        3 days ago

        You get another 333 calories from the sugar, add it to the vodka!

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        Nice, that was super fast. I guess it’s probably enough for one person to survive if they practically don’t move at all the entire month, for a little while at least.

        Still not pleasant I imagine.

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          What would you be willing to do to ensure that your fellow citizens aren’t dying of literal hunger on the streets?

          (Clearly to most Americans, that answer is “absolutely nothing”)

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            Exactly, and thst sounds like the sort of rations Americans had during the world wars. It was supplimented by a mass movement of community gardens. Personally I’m more a fan of the ration points system we used so that you aren’t stuck with stuff you won’t use and those who’d rather eat like Hannibal of Carthage and go less hungry can do that while those who’d rather eat more resource intensive foods like meat can accept the cost of their demands in the form of calories. Though that may just be because I’ve always been the sort who’d rather be full of lentils and potatoes than hungry after a burger, even before I quit meat.

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    I’m not gonna say that’s anywhere near sufficient, but as a US citizen where do I sign up

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      Well if you really want to be restricted purchasing the maximum amount of those items then you don’t need to sign up. Just limit your monthly amount to be as displayed.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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      To be ration-limited by what you can purchase? I’m sure that’s a fad diet somewhere.

      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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        I might bring tankies out of the woodwork for saying this, but I remember one time a tankie told me that scarcity in communist countries is by design and it’s a good thing, after I pointed out that people had to be on the waiting list just to get a car. What if the person lives in rural with no access to public transport?

        I understand capitalism is wasteful, but doing the extreme opposite and making people wait to own a car or giving someone bare essentials is not a good thing. Having a scarcity economy is not good, especially considering that the Soviet Union produced more tanks than cars throughout its history. The American military industrial complex is rightly criticised for overspending, but communist countries are worse since the case is that more tanks were made than civilian cars. It means more budget went to the military than to producing consumer good. Talk about priorities.

        • Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.works
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          Soviet Union had a limited ability to produce things, especially heavy machinery. Their leadership quickly realised that they can’t outproduce the Western countries on everything, so they decided to only match their military production capabilities. Which led to them falling further and further behind.

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          Not a tankie, nor a communist, just a progressive with an interest in history, but,

          after I pointed out that people had to be on the waiting list just to get a car. What if the person lives in rural with no access to public transport?

          Is such a US-centric view. They all didn’t need to drive cars, dude, they had public transportation.