• JamesTBagg@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    Is this generational? I’m a millennial, 38 years old. I don’t know about most of these short cuts. I’m a mechanic, I use computers at work but mostly proprietary programs. I don’t use my computer at home except for bill paying or something else the necessitates using it.

    • hansolo@lemm.eeEnglish
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      24 days ago

      Sort of, but of certainly not universal. I use common keyboard shortcuts all the time, but don’t know what the one OP was taking about was before just now.

      But, older folks seem to never, ever use things like Ctrl+C or Ctrl+P, which drives me crazy. But I’ve also seen people in the last few years who double click links on websites, and aren’t retired yet.

      Ultimately, YMMV.

  • Bob@feddit.nl
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    25 days ago

    When I used to sell tickets on the railway, I noticed that the ticketing programme had underlined letters, so I tried doing alt + those letters and it worked. I spent an evening shift at a remote outstation getting to grips with the shortcuts, then when it came to doing the morning rush at a busier station, it was talk of the town.

    I worked at a call centre for a shopping channel years ago, at a time when they were trying to get everyone to ditch this DOS-based ordering programme where you mainly use the F keys for operations in favour of this user-friendly GUI where you could do everything with the mouse, and would you believe, people were routinely faster with the keyboard. I suppose it hadn’t occurred to them that anyone can get used to doing keyboard controls if they’re sat at a computer eight hours a day.

  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    25 days ago

    I showed an extension that lets you do the same on a Mac to a non-technical friend of mine who works in marketing and he was like “wow I can’t believe it works” like it was the second coming or something, one day I’ll have to tell him about i3wm and tmux and vim…

  • drcobaltjedi@programming.dev
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    25 days ago

    I worked with this kid born in the year 2000 for about 11 months. He was in very loose terms “IT”, when he was typing ont he keyboard hed always hit the caps lock to type something in upper case, and when I questioned him on why he did that he responded “what do you do? Hold shift?” In a tome that implied I was somehow the weird one. He also had trouble typinh any symbols on the number row and had to be told to hold shift.

    Believe it or not this incompetent IT guy was fired for his incompetence in IT (and shitty people skills)

  • weegee90@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    The fact that Windows still doesn’t have a shortcut to move windows between Virtual Desktops is mind boggling to me. I had to download an AHK script just to replicate basic features included in KDE, Gnome and probably most of the tiling WMs.

    • havid_dume@lemmy.ml
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      25 days ago

      MS software also doesn’t play nice with virtual desktops. Opening excel files or answering teams calls yanks you all over your workflow.

      Alas, working an Excel job in a non-tech field, I fear I will suffer Windows the rest of my working life ☠️

    • 9point6@lemmy.world
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      25 days ago

      To be fair, windows literally didn’t have virtual desktops until a version or two ago. Which is mind boggling given Linux had it in the 90s

      • HeckGazer@programming.dev
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        25 days ago

        It also didn’t have tabs in the file explorer for the longest time. I remember having to download some random exe from a dodgy site just to have them in W7

      • neoman4426@fedia.io
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        25 days ago

        That seems to move your focus to the separate group of open programs rather than moving your focused program to the separate group which is how I read the request, but that’s one I’ve been offhandedly wondering about but too lazy to look up, so thank you.

      • SatyrSack@feddit.orgEnglish
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        25 days ago

        That shortcut simply switches which virtual desktop is currently active and showing onscreen. What they mean is there is no shortcut to take the active window (in the active virtual desktop) and move that window into the next virtual desktop.

  • Troy@lemmy.ca
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    25 days ago

    Sometimes it’s something simple like CTRL-C, then CTRL-V and the person watching you is like: wait how did you do that?!

    • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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      25 days ago

      Haha I remember someone at a front desk grumbling about how they couldn’t find the clock, and without looking at their screen I asked them to press F11. The way they looked at me when that solved it was priceless.

      • Troy@lemmy.ca
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        25 days ago

        I’ve been a Linux user for so long. Clipboard history was a thing almost two decades before Windows got it. I don’t think it is coded to Win+V though – CTRL-ALT-V is what my muscle memory is telling me…

        Middle mouse button paste is the bees knees though ;)

    • 50MYT@lemmy.world
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      25 days ago

      You joke.

      I had a hardcore boomer who worked mainframes - he was a mainframe wizard - refuse a redundancy payment (at age 60 - would have been a year plus wages). He was told if he didn’t take it, he would be moved to a team elsewhere. He shows up in my team and I had to teach him how to do copy paste. Then the shortcuts blew his mind.

      He still used a pen and paper to change passwords (kept a small pile of them on his desk, and none were labeled but that’s another story).

      • SatyrSack@feddit.orgEnglish
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        25 days ago

        You joke.

        I highly doubt that was a joke. It is unsettlingly common among even those who use computers daily.

  • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    25 days ago

    What’s a windows key? Proper keyboards have modifier keys named shift, ctrl, meta, super and hyper.

  • over_clox@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    For the absolute longest time (at least from Windows 95 through Windows 7, perhaps even later version but I dunno on that), every now and then after you exit a game, you can’t properly drag and drop nor double click anything on the desktop.

    Eventually I found a particular game that would consistently cause this issue, which got me wondering what all the game was doing upon exit. I theorized that maybe it left the keyboard buffer in something of a goofy state.

    So, I started with the thought that Windows must be thinking that a key is still being held down when it wasn’t. And sure enough, just tapping the Esc key managed to refresh the keyboard buffer and resolve the issue.

    You should easily be able to see the effects of this bug manually by holding down Esc and trying to use the mouse, stuff just ain’t gonna work right. So if you ever happen to encounter this bug, just tap the Esc key to refresh the keyboard buffer.

    • ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world
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      25 days ago

      Yes! Someone saw me add 😎 to a document I was grading once and it blew their mind. “Wait! What did you just do? How did you get that menu?” I try to teach people, but they almost never remember. They praise me for my navigation skills, but they don’t care to learn basic stuff like alt+tab/shift+alt+tab/win+tab.

      • psud@aussie.zone
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        21 days ago

        Fun thing about the switch apps forward/backwards keys is shifted tab is back tab, so alt+tab is switch forward and alt+back tab is switch backwards

        So useful when switching back and forth between two programs

        I feel like shortcut knowledge is more about willingness to explore the machine than generations. I’m gen X.

    • filcuk@lemmy.zip
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      25 days ago

      Which annoyingly only has a small subset of the emojis, making me have to use seach anyway.
      Better than nothing I guess.

    • huquad@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      24 days ago

      I discovered this at work when I fat fingered Winkey + L. No work was done that day.

    • CrayonRosary@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      23 days ago

      I’ll have to try that, but I’ve been using Win+;. It opens an emoji picker and puts the focus in a search field so you can type “shrug” or something and often just hit Enter to choose the single result.

      It’s ; as in ;)

      At least, thats how I like to think of it.

      • psud@aussie.zone
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        21 days ago

        It’s the same. The windows shortcuts page has

        Windows Key + Period (.) or Semicolon (;) - Open emoji panel.

    • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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      25 days ago

      I’ve made a couple abortive attempts at sway and others, but can’t seem to find anything that “just works” like i3. Is it really worth switching?

      • Samsy@lemmy.ml
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        24 days ago

        Sway to i3 is near the same, difference is Xorg vs. Wayland.

        Hyprland is worth switching but that’s just my opinion.

      • GreenAppleTree@lemmy.world
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        25 days ago

        Gen X, the real Silent Generation. So silent that nobody notices us sneaking past, ensuring a smooth transition from the analog age to digital.

    • SatyrSack@feddit.orgEnglish
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      25 days ago

      There are users from all generations who don’t know shortcuts. There are also users from all generations who do know shortcuts. In my experience, gen X/Y are more likely than other generations to know shortcuts. With that said, I still come across far more gen X who don’t know any than gen Y.

      Though this all may be culture/region dependent.

    • macrocarpa@lemmy.world
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      25 days ago

      no it’s the normal erasure of gen x from the timeline

      The timeline goes

      Old dead boomers

      Dying wealthy boomers

      Young poor boomers

      Gen y

      Millennials

      Gen z

      Gen alpha

    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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      25 days ago

      Ikr? We were learning keyboard based commands because mice weren’t a thing at the time. Even filthy casuals picked up some over the decades