• RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    It’s unbelievable that someone says this AND it is found to far exceed the speech and debate clause AND is held to account.

    But then, most authoritarian leaders are initially I stalled under cheers of their own population. And mostly people know what they are voting for. The MAGA crowd seems to just be more open about it.

    Just recently Indonesia voted for a guy who literally murdered his fellow countrymen as head of a special forces unit. But the youth think his TikTok dance is Soo cute, so they vote for the sweet grandpa with the cute dance. I hope they will be alright.

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        8 months ago

        Prabowo is a fucking monster, and much like other worldwide monsters, he was trained at Fort Bragg by US special forces.

        Then even The US said “This guy is too war crimey even for us. We’re going to deport you, but do keep in touch. Especially about those East Timor rebels. They look suspiciously anti-capitalist”.

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          8 months ago

          Bizarre, and at the same time devilishly clever. It looks like a modern adaptation of nazi’s sieg heil or some other cultish gestures if you think of it. He’s associated with more than an image or a voice, but with a dance one sees and repeats. And it’s a very visual, albeit looking innocent, sign of support that can easily turn in more people. And mass dance can be triggered, just like a wave on a stadium, by a dozen of provocators who’d start it…

          I hope his PR team would be the first to enjoy what they created.

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      8 months ago

      The speech and debate clause only covers members of Congress and Senators, and only for their debates in those respective houses. It dates back to when traveling to Washington might take several days, through several states, and they didn’t want members to be subject to arrest if some random Mayor or Sheriff didn’t like what they said.

      This guy is not a member of Congress and can’t use that as a shield.