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@helenslunch No - they don’t. They have their own Password manager.
Proton Pass is still in beta and lacks many features! Cannot recommend it!
Better use 1Password, Bitwarden, Strongboxsafe or Apple’s Passwordmanager.

Proton Pass maybe will get his time - but not now. I think it needs 1 or 2 more years to become feature rich and stable.

@helenslunch he ist proton partner. He has to write this 😎

@Nelizea happened like I already said or some months ago.
But overall - can proton users now use standard notes paid plan for free? Or what does it mean?

@Nelizea Doesn’t work because Proton did not release the needed update for Firefox!

@isVeryLoud that’s true.

@Heavybell It is fully Electron.

@vexikron which company is more secure concerning privacy (and security) within mails? Can you give examples? Everyone has to comply with local laws…. @protonprivacy

@UckyBon That’s an important point. That doesn’t reflect well on Proton.

@JimmyBigSausage Maybe because Proton is using Reddit as one of it’s main communication/support channels (in my opinion a farce).

@Apollo2323 macOS same.

@LunchEnjoyer simplelogin == Proton

@HEXN3T Bitwarden connected to SimpleLogin does provide Email Masking - or am I wrong?

@Nelizea I know of course.
But development is really slow with Proton products.
So I don’t understand why smaller companies like Tuta or Fastmail are faster in development while not being unsafe (or it only does look like being safe).
That’s mainly my question about.

@dazo for proton it looks like it’s also hard to make Win/macOS tools, as drive and mail/calendar are more or less beta/alpha level tools.
And proton pass app is still missing as native app.
I think proton has too little resources for that.
Wondering as I thought they do have many employees?! What are they doing all day long? @Nelizea @nailoC5

@dazo same here. @protonmail @protonprivacy

@dazo yes! Don’t forget Linux! @protonmail @protonprivacy

@dazo thanks David for this detailed feedback. As you mentioned mailbox.org. Have you tried them? What made you choose Proton in final step? And those users you ported to proton. Is this because of business or private? @unruhe @Tutanota @protonprivacy