Oh FFS, and here I was recently considering switching to ProtonMail… fuck the fuck off.

Dear CEOs: if you’re eager to suck dick, I’m sure you can find someone better than authoritarian shitheads. Have some fucking standards.

The official @[email protected] account replied and doubled down

[email protected] - @jonah

Corporate capture of Dems is real. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation.

Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidently has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote.

At a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up - JD Vance.

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[email protected] - @jonah By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand.

Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost.

Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.

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(Less importantly, my response)

So Proton is out.

Sorry, I won’t trust a service that licks fascist boots.

I went through so much effort to move my small business and team over to proton. wtf.

I am dissapointed that my VPN is getting involved in US politics. This is not something I want for this kind of service. I dont want to debate US politics here. That being said, I cancelled my annual autorenew for April and I would like some recommendations. Originally I was deciding between Mulvad and Proton. I’ve also seen some people in this thread using Tuta? I am in Europe and just want a service that prioritizes anonyminity and data protection. I don’t know how the dust will settle on all this Proton stuff. What would you all recommend for a provider?

They’re is no way Trump wrote that tweet. It is full of punctuation and clearly gets a point across. It was clearly written by someone else. Nevertheless, time to delete protonmail.

Been using their paid service for months. I have so many aliases. I’m just surprised. Surely this company knows its biggest user base has to be too educated to let this slide.

Extra weird because this is always the narrative, yet Trump could be any further from “standing up for the little guys” if he tried. It’s the same with the AfD in Germany, their voted policies (which is public as per the EU regulations) are as anti-consumer pro-corpo as you can be, even edging our truly crazy libertarian money sucker positions.

People somehow still surprised by Switzerland being neutral on Naziism

May it live forever even if they delete the toot: https://web.archive.org/web/20250115165213/https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Why can’t we have nice things?

OK let me add fuel to the fire. here in Andy’s response he says the tweet was from last year which is technically true but it was from December 2024.

Also how can he think that Trump stands for little guys when he has elon musk as his pet monkey

Just some advice for all of you affected by this.

Begin demanding a response from the ownership of this company.

“Is this Message approved by your board, and owners”

Just leaving doesnt make a difference, and some of you in the comments bought services right before this. That fucking sucks.

We dont have journalists and media on our side to help any more(arguably we never did, but that’s a separate discussion)

I think there are still good bones in Proton, but you know where at least one piece cancer is, and its in the worst spot. Demand as stakeholders that they remove the cancer or admit its not going to happen. Repeat your messages until they publicy respond as a company not just the head of it.

Its a shame if you dont do at least as much as expressing that they owe you an explanation and that you need the company as a whole, to why this had happened

This is a betrayal to many of you, tell them exactly what they need to do

Good luck. It only takes one of you to suceed and we all win

I see a lot of good discussion here. I’ve been on proton for years now, using my own domain. While true that Andy is one of 5 board members, and it’s a nonprofit etc, these statements are raising hairs on my neck, personally.

Does anyone have a good guide on problems associated with self-hosting email?

Honestly I’ll still be using Proton and recommending it because it’s just good and a net benefit for everyone, but goddammit Andy you should’ve taken Swiss neutrality to heart this time and not said anything.