cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/25627002

By Yasmine El-Sabawi in Washington
Published date: 5 February 2025 02:09 GMT

"On Tuesday, at a stunning joint press conference alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Trump announced the US will be taking over and running Gaza, potentially for the foreseeable future.

“Everybody I’ve spoken to loves the idea of the United States owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs with something that will be magnificent,” Trump told reporters after a three-hour meeting with Netanyahu. "

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Cool, I’m sure the rest of America will still get no apology from the people that kept telling us Kamala/Biden were jUsTaSbAD. So he’s going to be incredibly worse not just on Israel, but far worse in every other fucking single way.

    Thanks guys!

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    6 hours ago

    This news has me worried that Gaza will be the new camp for “undesirables” that we’re struggling to deport. I sure hope I am wrong.

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      3 hours ago

      Not likely after his “Riviera of the Middle East” and knowledge that his son-in-law Jared Kushner has ties will wealthy people in that area. They’re probably salivating to scoop up that land for pennies on the dollars (or free) and have all their wealthy backers develop the land as a resort for the wealthy.

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        The really neat trick is the land is way too risky as it stands for any developer to take on even putting aside the horrific context. There’s just too much dangerous stuff lying around.

        So he spends US government resources to get things nice and ready by spending taxpayer money and then hands it over to his family to make their money when the area is suitably ready.

        Just like the sovereign fund where he wants to toss a bunch of tax money into a fund and then use that fund to give to Elon so Elon can use taxpayer money to buy TikTok, while the US government makes TikTok worth less through screwing with their business.

    • jj4211@lemmy.world
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      Nah, Trump sees “Gaza Strip” and two things pop into that despicable brain of his:

      • Sweet Mediterranean beachfront territory ripe for resorts
      • The word “strip” means it should be like the Las Vegas strip

      His camps are going to be in places he sees as unambiguously devoid of potential.

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    14 hours ago

    the geniuses who said “im not voting for Harris because of Palestine” must be feeling really smart right now

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      5 hours ago

      Those people are too busy foaming at the mouth over the gulf of America. They never gave a shit about Palestine, it was nothing more than a convenience for them.

    • Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      They still blame it on Biden and Harris.
      One argument I see a lot is that it’s somehow Kamala’s fault by not trying hard enough to win their votes.

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      14 hours ago

      They will tell you that this result was inevitable and to look at the positive side of things (what ever this may be). Which is easy to do or say since they are not Palestinians

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        13 hours ago

        Which means their protest votes were meaningless. So it’s a weird excuse that they’re making.

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          No, their protest votes were not meaningless

          They actively put trump in the whitehouse.

          The American electoral system gives a voter the choice of potentially improving things (Dem) or actively making things worse (Rep). Given FPTP and the heavy use of propaganda, all other options (spoiling, abstaining, third party voting) equate to a republican vote, there is no other reality.

          If an American did not vote Democrat in the election that just passed, they voted for complete ethnic cleansing of Gaza and the gutting of human rights in the USA—they didn’t even try to hide what they were going to do this time. There is zero excuse.

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            10 hours ago

            Sorry, to clarify, I mean they were meaningless in terms of doing anything about stopping any genocide.

            And now we can add more genocide in the U.S. to what is going on in Palestine.

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      14 hours ago

      Well, those who were payed to got their pay and don’t care, and those dumb enough to fall for their logic and regurgitate it will just pick up on whatever The Next Big argument being regurgitated is. Something something this only server to support my argument something something was needed to show how flawed the system was something something.

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      Well in some twisted way. They might get a free out of open air jail card and start a new life somewhere else. So it was beneficiary for them after all.

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      14 hours ago

      Harris got more votes than Biden did in the majority of the key swing states. Stop directing your anger at people other than those who actually voted for him.

      • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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        13 hours ago

        Nope, people who stayed home instead of voting Democrat are worthy of anger too. Not voting has consequences.

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    To be clear, Trump is now openly promoting genocide. I considered this administration fascist up until now. Now, they full ass Nazis. Any American not going to the protests tomorrow and participating in a full on general strike is complicit with Nazis.

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      I agree with your first two sentences, but not with your last one. You have to take into consideration that many people are in different situations. If you have trouble making ends meet, if you need your job to feed your family, you might not be inclined to risk your job to protest. What I’m trying to say is, not all people that don’t protest are Nazis. Stating they are creates another layer of polarization that isn’t bringing us anywhere near a solution. And yes: Us. even though I’m not a US citizen, it unfortunately affects the world.

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    15 hours ago

    I’m certain this was exactly Kamala’s plan. She never said the magic combination of words that means she believes exactly what I want her to believe, so obviously this would have happened either way.

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      13 hours ago

      She said she would do nothing different. The genocide was obvious for months prior. Why would you continue defending this at this point? It’s been gross for over a year. Dems lost for many reasons, and on this issue it is fucking inexcusable.

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        You’ve got four years to learn why you’re wrong. Hopefully it’ll only be four years.

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        Harris’s plan: Gazans continue to suffer with constant bombardments and crumbling infrastructure. The US offers minor humanitarian aid and pays lip service to their plight.

        Trump’s plan: Extermination of all Gazans in a massive US-backed and Israeli-executed ethnic cleansing campaign in order to turn Gaza into a vacation spot for rich Israelis. Possible location for the next Trump hotel and casino.

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        She said she would do nothing different from Biden.

        This is different from Biden. Very different.

        Believe it or not, things can get worse even if they were bad before and pretending this was Harris’ plan as well is just silly.

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            12 hours ago

            Please quote me defending genocide. Unless that was just a lie to gain some kind of foothold in a silly internet argument.

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                12 hours ago

                I can’t remove any comments in this community, I’m not a moderator here.

                Seems like you’re very good at pointing fingers at the wrong people.

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                That’s the edited version. In the original, you accused me personally of defending genocide. You know people can see you edited a comment with the pencil icon there, right?

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                  It’s when your views align with “acceptable levels of genocide,” I think you’ve lost the plot and are not a voice someone should be listening to.

                  Edit: this is what’s being removed…and related comments

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    I want to see the convoluted logic the mental gymnasts who pushed forth against voting for Biden so Trump wouldn’t get elected on issues like Palestine come up with. It’s an art.

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        Well, there was the primary, so people could have voted for him in 2024 reasonably at some point in the year.

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        They starting pushing forth against voting for him long before Kamala became the candidate, and they still call him genocide Biden. Kamala and Biden where on the same ticket regarding criticism of their handling in their Middle East.

        Is this it, though? Just a one off quip that’s almost irrelevant and a few downvotes? Now I’m disappointed.

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      It’s an art.

      It’s a standard and often-used propaganda tactic, popular with the Russians, among others.

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      “The world is getting fucked anyway, might as well join in doing the fucking.”