• shani66@ani.social
    311·
    1 month ago

    Universal Monk? Why does that name sound familiar? Is that one of those Trump trolls that was around pretending to be a leftist to depress dem turn out? If so: called it.

  • Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    29·
    1 month ago

    Even if this person is a troll, setting up all of these communities and making multiple posts all across the place to audience of none is pretty fucking sad. I mean, look at this:

    Screenshot_20250211-163756_Firefox

    This person actually spent time typing all of this as if they’re speaking to all of their close friends. And two days later there it still is with the one default upvote and no comments.

    In fact, this is making me literally sad for this person now. They probably need professional help.

    • yuri@pawb.social
      141·
      1 month ago

      i reckon monk thinks they’re trolling. they certainly think they’re doing something.

      it is uniquely sad to watch though, like an injured animal snapping at it’s only hope for assistance.

    • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
      71·
      1 month ago

      It occurs to me that this could be corporate or even governmental.

      Otherwise it’s a lot of time and thought going into nothing or at best a long game. Very sad.

      • nomad@infosec.pub
        62·
        1 month ago

        This is automated, not even that hard to code. More so if done in an separate instance. Also not hard to detect and autoban in theory on regular instances.

        Lemmy needs a decentralized reputation system where all the big instances score people automatically so the fakes don’t appear at all.

          • nomad@infosec.pub
            41·
            1 month ago

            If darknet markets can do it, so can we. I’m a distributed systems security specialist. This is existing technology. We would require something like spamhouse etc. Everybody can run an email sever, but building reputation takes a bit. Blockchain can do some parts of that to make it auditable.

            • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
              2·
              29 days ago

              Not my area of expertise, so, I’d defer to those such as yourself. I absolutely think it’s possible but, not simple to do in a resilient manner. Even with a publicly auditable ledger, there’s a risk of becoming realistically unauditable due to massive quantity of data (as seen in some open source projects), which would need mitigations.

              If you have any recommended readings or the like on such things, I’d appreciate them.

        • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
          7·
          1 month ago

          How is that really an accomplishment? I mean, in a way breaking a window is a creative act. It changes something, makes it different.

          But it doesn’t add any energy, any thought, any creative juice, to the human mix. It just contributes entropy. Made everything a little worse.

          Working with chaos is always easier. It’s always easy to let the undertow pull you out to sea. It’s so much harder to fight it and swim back to shore.

  • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    171·
    1 month ago

    @SatansMaggotyCumFart check this out. Universal Monk made a fake you

      • snek_boi@lemmy.mlEnglish
        10·
        1 month ago

        Being anti-fascist sounds like a fascist idea?

        Edit: I agree that conservatives are not necessarily fascists. It’s just that fascists have historically loved spitting into the same cup as conservatives and happily drinking the cup together. Moreover, fascists censor or assassinate people who dare to question the dogma that ‘corporations are never wrong’, that ‘ultra-nationalism is definitely not an excuse to exploit workers’, or that ‘some people aren’t people’. Conservatives have, historically, been more than happy with the censorship or the assassination of those who point out that fascists are irresponsible, that fascists are obsessed with the shape of their belly-buttons, or that fascists are scared of anyone who doesn’t fit into the tiny conceptual boxes that fascists have in their head.

          • snek_boi@lemmy.mlEnglish
            5·
            1 month ago

            It sounds as if, for you, fascism means censoring or banning others, or at the very least banning conservatives. Do you really believe that’s what it means? Is every person who censors or bans others (or at least conservatives) a fascist?

            The neoliberal and pro-capitalist dictator Pinochet gathered thousands of people in stadiums and would torture or execute them. The same neoliberal and pro-capitalist dictator would wrap people in wire and railroad parts, and send them on a death-trip on helicopter to be dropped in a river to their deaths.

            If the president of China gathered people in stadiums and tortured them or executed them, would that be neoliberalism or pro-capitalism? If the president of China wrapped people in wire or railroad parts, and sent them on a death-trip on helicopter to be dropped in a river to their deaths, would that be neoliberalism or pro-capitalism?

            If the above is too complicated, here’s the simple version: Let’s say I have a table that’s held together by screws. Furthermore, let’s say I also have a calculator that’s held together by screws. Is it accurate to say that, since both have screws, both are tables?

            Putting the definition of fascism aside, do you know the paradox of tolerance?

              • snek_boi@lemmy.ml
                4·
                1 month ago

                Ah. You bring up a good point. I see how my previous comments were not accurate. I edited one of them and I’ll copy the edit here:

                I agree that conservatives are not necessarily fascists. It’s just that fascists have historically loved spitting into the same cup as conservatives and happily drinking the cup together. Moreover, fascists censor or assassinate people who dare to question the dogma that ‘corporations are never wrong’, that ‘ultra-nationalism is definitely not an excuse to exploit workers’, or that ‘some people aren’t people’. Conservatives have, historically, been more than happy with the censorship or the assassination of anti-fascists.

                Just to be clear, since the word fascism is the one we’re talking about: Who are anti-fascists? People who point out that the fascist emperor has no clothes. Who are anti-fascists? People who point out that fascists at the very least make mistakes like any other human (and at most are genocidal, radical, maniacs). Who are anti-fascists? People who point out that fascists are obsessed with the shape of their belly-buttons. Who are anti-fascists? People who point out that fascists are scared of anyone who doesn’t fit into the tiny conceptual boxes that fascists have in their tiny heads.

                I also understand that, in some groups, the historically-informed definition of fascism (as tied to capitalism, ultra-nationalism, and the dehumanization of people) is ignored. The word is used as a paint-ball gun to paint anything that they don’t like with the word “fascism”.

                To the extent that fascism is tied to its ‘corporations are never wrong’, ‘ultra-nationalism is definitely not an excuse to exploit workers’, 'or its ‘some people aren’t people’ roots, the label “fascist” fits Trump just like Cinderella’s shoe fits her foot. And, given the paradox of tolerance, it would make sense to defend tolerance from fascists and therefore protect democracy from fascists.

    • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      6·
      1 month ago

      Sure, if the instance the comms are on allows it, they have that right. Of course, looking at the member numbers, doesn’t look like any of them are taking you up on the offer for a safe place. I’ve heard the term echo chamber before, but you don’t even have enough people for that.

        • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          9·
          1 month ago

          I’m not trying to get you banned. I don’t give a shit about you, other than finding a momentary bit of amusement at how sad and lonely the whole thing looks.

          • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
            41·
            1 month ago

            Yeah, he said that to me too. I don’t care about him being banned, although making a bunch of aliases is bullshit. ESPECIALLY if they are names that already belong to people. Double bullshit there.

            Lemmy is unintentionally Lemmy. It just is itself. Creating a “Conservative Land” like some Disney park, intentionally, and trying to “if I build it they will come” it into existence?

            That’s just odd behavior. Anyone can do it if they like. And if they aren’t offensive I daresay they won’t be defederated. But the aliases bother me, and I think defederation may come because of that. Certainly using SatansMaggotyCumFart (man, I hate that that’s now going to be a spelling suggestion).

    • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      30 days ago

      Even though I’m not conservative, I feel they have a right to partake in Lemmy.

      And I’ll help them do that. Cool?

      Yeah, I’m late to the party, but I’m probably just gonna block and move on. You seem like a walking ball of contradiction, and trying to figure out your actual views is probably what is pissing some folks off.

      I don’t think you should be banned, but I don’t need to interact with someone helping to spread pro-trump messaging.

      Removed image because it’s not actually the one I’m fishing for in my ridiculously unorganized folder of quips.

      • Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        41·
        30 days ago

        I mean, I think they should be banned because they’re clearly just spreading misinformation and division. “I’m not a conservative, I’m totally a socialist! I just build conservative communities and support conservative ideas because I want to support them! Not because I agree with them!”

        “It’s not trolling! I’m just sharing articles for funsies! I’m a retired socialist and do it in my free time! I just share doomer socialist content with socialists, and inflammatory conservative content with conservatives! That’s a totally normal and fun thing to do for a lifelong socialist!”

        “Don’t take lemmy so seriously guys, its not like political discussion influences political action and those actions have direct consequences on people’s lives! Politics can be fun!”

        Fuck off, troll.

        • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          29 days ago

          Yeah, I ended up going with a block anyhow. They may be legit carrying separate, distinct views in their head, but it was already feeling a little self contradictory by the time we were a couple layers deeper.

          • Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            31·
            29 days ago

            Have to defer to Occam’s razor, not Hanlon’s, unfortunately. The simplest answer is more often right when deciding between malice and stupidity, and this user’s actions can most simply be explained as trolling.

            Blocking and banning are the only reasonable responses to trolls who play these games with their words and intentions and who thrive on being the nice, innocent victim in response to every challenge.

        • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          30 days ago

          Why should someone’s political views “piss someone folks off”?

          It would be the “I’m a socialist but nearly all my posts are pro-Trump” bit I think. The ball of contradictions.

          But also, supporting someone who is setting up new internment , uh deportation, no, concentration camps, among other actions that are kicking the legs out from under our nation and causing the deaths of innocents would be a decent reason to be pissed off about someone’s political views.

          I appreciate your honesty. Especially in these times. I respect and support your right to disregard me and move on.

          I’ll probably wait until I can find the right quip to post. The point of it is along the lines of “all views deserve equal consideration only if you don’t actually look at the content of some of those views.” Because you seem to think you’re just playing fair, when what you are actually doing is supporting the up and coming dictatorial fascist regime.

          And in reply to one of your other questions - all conservatives and republicans may not be fascist bigots, but it’s also clearly not a problem for them that their elected representatives are. That’s pretty much enough for me to know what I need to know about them.

            • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
              21·
              30 days ago

              Trump won the election. Does that mean the US is full of nazis?

              Means it’s full of people who are cool with us heading that way. Have some quips, though still not the one I was looking for.

              I also post news about earthquakes and ufo’s and tornado’s. Does that mean I support all of these things?

              Do you roll out the red carpet for them and explicitly say you are helping them?

              Even though I’m not conservative, I feel they have a right to partake in Lemmy.

              And I’ll help them do that. Cool?

              Nope, not cool.

                • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  2·
                  30 days ago

                  I DID say that for the Socialist Workers Party tho, and I’m setting up a local office in my city for them.

                  Like I said, walking contradictions. It’s tiring.

                  Even though I’m not conservative, I feel they have a right to partake in Lemmy.

                  And I’ll help them do that. Cool?