Didn’t need the psychic hotline to see this coming…

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    “A contract is a contract. We’re hoping to get farmers the money” they’re owed, Swart said.

    You elected the guy who didn’t honour contacts openly. Too bad millions or billions now need to suffer because of your vision of country.

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              Yeah. Without a state apparatus that has a monopoly on violence to enforce contracts, the person with the biggest army gets what they want. And guess who would end up with the most power in that sort of situation? Billionaires.

              It’s a fast track back to feudalism. I’ve seen someone here refer to it as “Immortan Joe fantasies” and I thought that was pretty apt (Immortan Joe is the villain in Mad Max: Fury Road).

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                It’s surprising how many people still operate on the concept of temporarily embarrassed millionaires ($100 million dollars in current value). This is not the vast majority of us, and never will be. It’s like when my dad would talk about the “death tax” which is pretty much a thing…if you have over $10 million in your estate and a whole bunch of other caveats. He never had that before he died, and I didn’t look into the details of the inheritance tax before he died, either.

                Canada’s current version of the death tax is the capital gains tax change…which is something like an additional $13k if your income is over $300k of capital gains. And people respond with, “But what if I sell my house?” If your house is your primary residence (and you owned it for at least a year), it’s tax free. If it isn’t, it only matters if it appreciated by $300k, and again I think you can handle the extra $13k.

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                  It’s like when my dad would talk about the “death tax” which is pretty much a thing…if you have over $10 million in your estate and a whole bunch of other caveats. He never had that before he died, and I didn’t look into the details of the inheritance tax before he died, either.

                  I can very much relate to this unfortunately (I think Trump even raised the threshold during his first administration). And no matter how many times you try to explain it, and show them sources that back you up, they just ignore it and continue to believe what they already believed. I truly do not know how we’re supposed to deal with this level of brain rot.

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    He fucked them the first time he was President. He’s fucking them again now. They didn’t learn a goddamn thing. They made their bed and now they can lie in it. Stupid fucks.

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      You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.

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      I will never understand how an Iowa farmer could have been okay with him. They literally depend on (usually illegal) migrant work. They can’t afford to pay minimum wage, but here they are, once again.

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        I don’t live in Iowa but have a small farm and live surrounded by farmers and ranchers. You have to understand that these people have the tiniest of perspective to the world. They spend almost their entire lives on one property, rarely go anywhere due to the nature of farming, and constantly have right-wing radio on in the truck and the barn and fox news on at home. You combine that with limited education across multiple generations and you have a group of people perfectly suited to consistently buy into propaganda and almost never able to identify things that will eat their face in the end.

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          Oh I know, I grew up there surrounded by them. You’re right, that’s exactly how it happened, but I don’t let them off the hook for it

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        I’m less sure about the migrant worker in Iowa’s case. I think Iowa is mostly corn and soy, which have been machine-picked-and-processed for close to 100 years now. I’m sure that some migrant labor is being used, but one automated combine can pick A LOT of corn in a day.

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    Just wait until Canada returns US tariffs with potash tariffs. That should go over really well. Enjoy your dust fields.

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      You’re not thinking about tariffs correctly. Unless Canada puts a tariff on and export, which is unlikely. But, that being said, Trump’s tariffs do include potash, which goes to your point. What I find interesting about all these articles, is that they never seem to be able to focus their anger at the man doing this, or the administration causing them the pain and anxiety. They’re all wearing blinders.

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        Yes. You’re right. I have it backwards. Sorry. Let’s stop the sale of Potash instead since it can be used to make explosives and the U.S. is an untrustworthy ally at this point.

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        Unless Canada puts a tariff on and export, which is unlikely.

        Let him keep FAFO on invading threats and watch trade go to 0.

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    Those red run welfare farmers still have their cheap illegal labor. If they file for bankruptcy, the big corporate farms will buy them up. FAFO stupid red losers!

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      Again, this is by design. They WANT farmers to fail so they can buy the farmland for pennies on the dollar.

      This is part of their plan! It is a cheap way to buy lots of property for cheap and gain further control of the food industry.

      Go look at what’s been happening after the crash of 2008. Wall St. investment firms started buying foreclosured properties en mass and now owns at least 20% of low income housing. Same thing will happen here.

      Privatizing farmland and driving out the private farms that can’t survive without government subsidies. All in the guise of privatization and capitalism.

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        I fully agree with your comment, the MAGAts are going to be like deer in headlights before the impact.

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    I see”conservation”, clearly it’s one of those fake environmental things: dirt doesn’t need to be saved. It’s all that woke DEI nonsense getting in the way of true Americans

    —- the thing is we can make up shit like this, but it really seems like some would actually follow logic like this. How did my respect for my fellow man get so low?

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      I feel like, if we can convince Conservatives of anything, it’s that “Conservation” is a key component as it’s right there in the word!

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    Green hats too? God dammit… Trump did to baseball caps what Hitler did to the swastika and toothbrush mustache

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    They’ll probably toss them a bone at some point to shut them up, like they did with farmers in his first term after his previous tariffs fucked them over.