Of course they are. They’ll ban discussion of democracy next, and then voting.
Zuckerberg:( hello fellow organic lifeform, you must not converse in my take over of your limited lifespan
We edge closer to Weyland-Yuyani hegemony every day, only the IRL technocrats will be stupider and greedier IRL
Humanity: invents capitalism government
Engineers: Hold my dark fluid, I’ve got a mistake to fix
I associate it with “The Space Merchants” and their corporate congress.
It’s a really good book written in 1952 and talks about climate change, rampant corporate greed, synthetic meat… Really good read.
They’ll ban discussion of democracy next, and then voting.
Damn right they should!
Managed Democracy is the true path, all who resist it shall suffer our wrath~.
(I hate the possibility that this could be a real thing in the future)
Just another reason to abandon social networks owned by big tech companies and moving to decentralized open source social networks.
Oh, this is the 15-minute cities they’re scared of.
Fucking insane how these people twist a good idea in to something evil, then support the evil version of that idea.
I think they do that on purpose. These powerful players not the idiots voting for them.
I’ve been reading a little about this concept and can’t see how it would work in reality. Sure, the Feds could “set aside” some land for one of these assholes to set up a new city. But that area would still be under the concurrent jurisdiction of a state and county. And not even the Feds can exempt a city from a state’s regulatory environment. In fact most of the things these billionaires are trying to get away from (labor laws, building codes, etc) are state regulations in the first place.
Frankly no billionaire is going to want to live in the middle of South Dakota, no matter how “free” it supposedly is.
Link to the video
I believe the idea is that Trump is likely to sell our national parks to them.
That’s the current conspiracy gossip I believe.
Everyone seems to forget a bunch of tech bros bought almost $1B worth of land in Solano County CA with the stated goal of building a new city. It made national headlines for a bit as the buyer was initially a mystery and it’s near Travis Air Force base so there was concern it was foreign actors.
Rich people trying to buy land for their own slice of paradise goes way back. Solano County is recent history, young squire. I go back to the Free State project from 2001, same song and dance. Or the non-government wet dream of Sealand off the coast of England in 1987, ditto. And if one wants to go even more old school than that, look at the rich Confederate plantation owners that went to Brazil after the CSA fell in 1865. You can even go down to the town of Americana every year and celebrate the Confederacy! These fuckers wanted to deny that they lost so badly that they created a false reality in Brazil.
It won’t be the Billionaires who have to live in places like South Dakota, it will be their workers/slaves who will.
Everyone needs to GTFO facebook. We can hardly do it because every other HOA and School PTA is there, but we get stop using messenger and stop having personal discussions over there.
I was fortunate that my partner never used Facebook, so I got to hold “communication with their sibling/child” over their heads and get the family chat onto signal. That was my last thing I had to do before I could delete my account
The most fun was sending a message to each of the Facebook friends: hi (name) I’m deleting my Facebook account, if you want to contact me online I can be reached on signal at (signal ID)
My wife and I were on Facebook Messenger a lot. Then she started pointing out every time we would talk about any topic she would get ads for it. I talked her into using signal.
We added the teenager into it, now the only serious problem I have is the little one could stand to be on the family chat in signal but he doesn’t have a phone number.
I tried making an account for him with my Google voice number, for some reason it refused on his Wi-Fi only tablet. So I made him an account using my real phone number, then remade my account using my Google voice number on my phone which worked, But now his signal account flips back and forth between his name and my name and it’s just very confused. It’s good enough but I wish there was some way you could do signal without having to do a phone number. Especially a sub account for kids you know…
I thought I heard recently about signal allowing a different ID system, but I think that’s about not having to share your phone number, as against them IDing you with a phone number which I expect they will keep doing
Contact those places and ask for an alternative -the less people participate the quieter the discussions the more likely they are to at least try to switch over if they start feeling some pressure.
I agree that it needs to happen but contacting these places and asking them for an alternative is a lot like contacting a deep sea tube worm and asking it to learn brain surgery.
They’re probably capable of moving from one social platform to another, But it’s a lot of work and they’re destroying their network every time so they’re highly resistant.
If Apple wasn’t such a pain in the ass about notification services We could probably crowdsource and TFY and let everyone use it for schools non-profits and such
The best we could expect us for them to move to Blue sky. Health in my case half of them just recently moved off Twitter.
Yeah, I dumped facebook right after the election but unfortunately most of my friends and family are only on WhatsApp.
WhatsApp is a serious problem. There are quite a number of countries that are running a lot of their business through it.
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Oh they can’t force you. You can always rely on the pta just to send you papers home and backpacks and you don’t really need to talk to your neighbors or have them report problems in a public forum
There’s enough value for these places that I still go back to Facebook for it, they’re not forcing me. They just make it worth it.
Yeah that’s them network effects
Hrmm. I wonder why they would censor such a conspiratorial idea? Unless…
In modern day the difference between tin foil conspiracy and out right conspiracy appears to be about 6 months
Quit Meta… problem solved
I have another solution, it’s a little bloodier
Free rare steaks for anyone who quits! But how will we pay for it…
Shut down and delete your data on your US tech accounts. Their business’s are worthless without our accounts.
It’s a process, start today! With the easy ones and work towards the hard ones.
Agreed.
Delete your facebook products.
If you know someone who works at facebook, try to convince them to leave.
If you see someone who’s in a leadership position at Facebook bleeding out, perhaps after a car accident because their brakes were sabotaged, let them die.
i wish. if i delete whatsapp ill be completely isolated. sadly they cornered the entire market in my country including sms.
it would unironically take a big outage for everyone to move though. heres hoping an industrious hacker is willing to paint that kind of target on their own back.
i’ve been trying to get people to switch platforms for years. it’s not easy. if only people cared more about things than they want convenience…
We are already living in a country being run by Elon Musk.
Peter thiel* is a bigger puppet master, he just doesn’t want to be the face. He wants the world to collapse so he can rebuild it into his techno feudalism dream. This is all to plan
Now I know what Alex Jones would say if he were on the left
corporation*
Tesla tubby is illegitimate parasite leeching on American government and taxpayer…
Federal government needs to consume some ivermectin
Wait, corporate government, like in cyberpunk?
Nah. Like in Snowcrash.
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I was referring to cyberpunk as a genre and theme, I remembered some things after reading this post like shadowrun, cyberpunk ttrpg, Gibson’s books, system shock, etc.
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Yep, I just want more people to read the book because I like it. Cyberpunk the game rocks, Snowcrash rocks.
They’re both nouns, but I get what you mean.
Basically. I mean there’s a bit more to it than that but it’s the core idea. It’s also the goal of several tech oligarchs which is why he doesn’t want the peons to be able to talk about it.
I’m reading the Sprawl trilogy along with Shelved By Genre, and Gibson harps on the note that ‘the Ultra Rich aren’t human’, and has some great examples in the books.
I think he was very observant, and Musk makes it so blatant.
I’m curious what people think of the author, Taylor Lorenz? I noticed I have her blocked on some social media and couldn’t remember why. I searched a little and found she had referred to Biden as a war criminal on WaPo, just prior to the election. Probably when I started blocking everything I didn’t think was generative in terms of news. I still think it’s a shit-take but am wondering if I’m just being thin-skinned? Is she a decent writer? Should we be following her? This is definitely an important story to follow. Anyhow, I have moved onto getting my stories from rss readers and some social media, no paid subscriptions to legacy MSM. So, scrutinizing individual writers becomes more critical.
She is a decent left leaning reporter. She is a good writer
Thanks. That’s the sense I got. I’ll follow her again, I guess.
She might be the one that Libs of Tiktok has an unhealthy stalkery lady boner for.
Here’s a similar article discussing the techno-libertarian movement from a different author. Covers similar themes and explicitly discusses the Network State as an ideology
Thank you.
She’s been caught in some stealth edits and other unethical practises when trying to push a specific narrative. I don’t trust her reporting very much after following her work during the Depp-Heard trial in '21. It is unfortunate that her need to push her, or her publishers, agenda appears to be more important than honest reporting, and I’m saying this as a very left-leaning, queer person.
What did she do during Depp v. Heard?
She was staunchly pro-Heard, which in and of itself isn’t a problem. However, she lied about reaching out to pro-Depp commentators (some of whom were lawyers) for comments for a piece she wrote, and the article was then stealth-edited after she got called out by several commentators.
Together with her later insistence that she did not share a meme calling Biden a war criminal, only to later admit to doing exactly that, I don’t find her reporting particularly trustworthy. I try to verify her facts from other sources, and I mostly avoid her opinion pieces.
Ah, now that does start to ring a bell. Thank you.
Pay no attention to the fascist behind the curtain.
The fascist in front of the curtain is loud enough already.
Let’s not forget how we got here though cause if we do forget & survive this round, won’t be long before it comes back. I’m specifically referring to the candidate that we were all lied to about their cognition until we all saw the emperor had no clothes.
pro-genocide candidate
You realize Trump supports Russia (genocide of Ukrainians and minority ethnicities) and gave Israel the green light to continue on. Right?
Trump wants to start a war with Canada and Greenland. Right?
Seems like you fully support genocide. Despite having the audacity to claim otherwise.
I don’t support Trump & didn’t vote for him. Why in your mind does criticizing something about Democrats equate to being a Trump supporter? Maybe you should have been more critical of Democrats prior to the election & we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Why in your mind does criticizing something about Democrats equate to being a Trump supporter?
idk calling the Democratic candidate “Pro-Genocide” (They are not, no matter how much you claim they are), while letting the literal pro-genocide candidate off scott free.
Lol, you had the Biden “proud Zionist” admin literally vetoing UN resolutions demanding a ceasefire. Instead every answer was “we’ll always stand by Israel & give them money to continue.” Clearly if you believe that isn’t pro genocide then you’re living in a different pretend reality.
The Biden admin has been working with Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestinian Authority, Qatar, HAMAS, and Israel to actually establish a real ceasefire agreement.
Biden’s administration has been seeking a resolution that will end the blood shed. Trump’s administration is suggesting and supporting the outright REMOVAL of Palestinians. It’s not hard to see that.
You’ll never win this argument on Lemmy. The population here “know” that “genocide Joe” was the key enabler of Israel’s aggression and they can’t see nuance
As I see it Biden couldn’t disarm Israel as Israel disarmed would be obliterated, and that’s political suicide in America
Of course a Democrat government was lending whatever diplomatic weight they could to establishing lasting peace in the middle east - that would be a popular win if they succeeded
I lost a tiktok watching friend over this
The same Biden administration that helped kill 70k civilians. He got walked around the park by Netanyahu. Democrats & Republicans are both Israel first. The sooner you face reality the sooner Democrats will actually have to do something to earn votes. Look at where we’re at now. Did you make excuses for them to get us here?
Look, I much prefer any Democratic administration over a Republican one but it’s ABSOLUTELY correct to say the Democratic Party supports a genocide. They clearly didn’t respect international law nor did they comply with arrest warrants for Netanyahu. They also continued to fund Israel after human rights violation after human rights violation. What is that other than sheer, explicit support of a genocide?
They clearly didn’t respect international law nor did they comply with arrest warrants for Netanyahu.
The US is not a member of the ICC.
Fuck off bitch. Trump being worst doesn’t excuse Biden. And doesn’t excuse you. Go fucking die. You are an immorale subhuman who like carpet bombing when your side does it
lmao
The people of Palestine will be the only people suffering and dying for your support of the turbo genocide candidate.
fair, but Harris would have won without election rigging. Voter suppression and forced provisional ballots that were never counted.
Thanks for supporting trump because you’re a great morally pure saint
I’m a lot more moral than genocide supporters
Did you vote against Trump, or were you too “moral”?
I absolutely voted against Trump for Jill Stein.
So you wasted your vote
I’m very proud of my vote. I voted alongside the Palestinians that Kamala Cheney hates.
You’re a genocide supporter who lies
Prove it. I bet you voted for a candidate that said they support Israel unconditionally.
I didn’t vote for trump, unlike you, you fraud.
Neither did I. Keep acting that way though please… You’ll help get more third party voters next election.
That’s not really the root cause. Capitalism is closer to the root.
Lol. Capitalism isn’t going away anytime soon. Democrats absolutely could have won if they actually stood for anything other than themselves.
not with that attitude
Sure, but a big part of why they don’t do better is they want to continue the capitalist hellscape where a few people benefit from “owning” most everything.
Because that is the system people are subscribed to. You want big change & to take on capitalism you need a V for Vendetta. The system is built on capitalism. The best chance we’d prob have right now to take on capitalism is someone with a popular agenda that is good at acting, but once elected as President they basically say… Ha, now I’m immune & will use my platform to try to get rid of capitalism. They’d probably get assassinated real quick though. Or a complete collapse of the system.
Maybe. We can still try to work on multiple things at the same time.
Demand more from the Democrats.
Fight the right wing.
Push for better systems.
No one’s going to wave a magic wand and fix everything. though it would be funny to me if more billionaires were murdered , that’s not really likely or safe.
It’s called building dual power, and many of us are actually doing things every day to further that goal.
The best chance we’d prob have right now to take on capitalism is someone with a popular agenda that is good at acting, but once elected as President they basically say… Ha, now I’m immune & will use my platform to try to get rid of capitalism […] Or [cause] a complete collapse of the system.
Is this sarcastic? Because that’s literally what we’re witnessing. We may have a chance at building a better world with better systems very soon.
Not if the same establishment Democrats get reelected then claim their hands are tied whenever Republicans try their usual antics.
Capitalists should hold no political power, do you agree?
The Network State is just feudalism updated to accommodate a new set of vile and toxic elitist shitheads.
That makes sense. I bet lobbyist play a big roll into that. Is it the lobbyists jobs that are bad or the way and the people who take the jobs are bad?
