Summary

Lawmakers from both parties expressed outrage after The Atlantic’s editor-in-chief revealed he was accidentally included in a Trump administration Signal chat discussing Yemen airstrikes.

Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-Pa.) and Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-Calif.) called for investigations and firings, labeling it a serious security breach.

Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) criticized the use of non-secure systems, warning that adversaries like Russia and China could exploit it.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) condemned the administration’s mishandling of classified information, saying it endangers national security.

  • leadore@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    153
    ·
    7 days ago

    No heads will roll. What most stories miss is that the main reason they didn’t use official channels for this (and most likely many of their other conversations as well) is that they don’t want to comply with the Federal Records Act. They don’t want there to be a record of a lot of the shit they’re saying and doing and plan to do.

    • jacksilver@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      25
      ·
      7 days ago

      Yeah, I know why the guy came clean, but it would have been so much more useful if we stayed on the chat. Really a big missed opportunity.

      • leadore@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        36
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        7 days ago

        OTOH he did stay on it as long as he could while still being able to protect himself by saying he didn’t think it could be real and most likely a scam or attempt to entrap, plus the thread was basically over by then anyway.

        • pleasegoaway@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          30
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 days ago

          Yep. If he stayed on the chat too long he would have been arrested for espionage and imprisoned for life.

          The trump regime’s gross incompetence put him in a dangerous position.

          • leadore@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            20
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            7 days ago

            Meanwhile, I suspect that someone on the inside quietly looped the journalist into the group as a way to expose what’s been going on. If so, that person is in grave danger.

              • leadore@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                6 days ago

                I haven’t found anything so far saying who invited him in. Just passive voice that he was “inadvertently” included. So in your source that it was Waltz, did it say whether he personally did it or was it one of his staff? I’d be interested to know how it happened. Did someone misunderstand who “JG” meant? (apparently it was just his initials). If so, who with the initials JG did they think they were inviting. I’d appreciate any link with that info if you have it.

  • Rakonat@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    80
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 days ago

    Remember in 2016 when the entire magat crowd screamed that Hillary should be locked up for using a private, secure server that was only accessible to authorized individuals?

    Surely they won’t be hypocrites and try to brush this under the rug, or worse try to blame the editor-in-chief who had no desire to get wrapped up in this.

  • rational_lib@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    76
    ·
    7 days ago

    I’m shocked that the administration of “Put the big boxes of top secret docs under the bathroom chandelier” would mishandle secret war plans.

    • Katana314@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      7 days ago

      The horrific absurdity is that even Trump was beginning sentences with “Somebody should …” AFTER he became president.

      They are too used to the conspiracy-theorist, “humble-truth-finder” mindset EVEN when they are at the top.

      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        6 days ago

        Marco Rubio: “Alright, everybody, line up and get ready for the shooting of our own feet.”

        McConnell: “Aren’t you guys going to do something about all this?”

        Dems: “Like what? Go on tour?”

        • nomy@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          6 days ago

          Dems: “Like what? Go on tour?”

          Dems: “Our job is to convince American citizens that that Israel is a cool guy!”

          • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            6 days ago

            Schumer’s just a cranky old man who still thinks bipartisanship is on the table.

            Lots of petitions asking for him to resign as minority leader, and he’s so universally hated rn that he cancelled his book tour.

  • greenhorn@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    6 days ago

    Hegseth is now saying it didn’t actually happen, matching their incompetence with dishonesty, the tone of this “merit based” administration

  • velvetylogic@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    6 days ago

    The worst thing is aside from being inept and careless, there is no chance they aren’t selling secrets to anyone willing to pay.

  • merc@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    53
    ·
    7 days ago

    The really sad thing is that in this scenario only Republicans matter. As long as they keep treating Trump as some kind of god-emperor, nothing will happen.

    I was going to say “treating him as a king”, but England and Canada have kings and would never put up with this kind of shit from a king. England hasn’t put up with kings acting this way since the Magna Carta was signed.

      • Jyrdano@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        6 days ago

        I might be wrong, but I recall the thedonald being pretty much a joke sub until it was hijacked by nazis and maggats.

        • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          6 days ago

          I don’t remember that. I never remember them being anything but poisonous.

          They were always trying to “joke” their way into the front page, but their intention was always to crowd out opposing opinions.

          Bad actors always use “free speech” and “tolerance” against their opponents to gain a foothold, and then use that foothold to leverage a pogrom.

          Over and over again.

      • Madison420@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        7 days ago

        That’s literally what his base thinks he is, they don’t think he’s godly they think he’s ordained by God because Jerry Falwell endorsed him but that only happened because Cohen blackmailed him.

    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      6 days ago

      And the yemenis but they’ve got the wrong skin tone for anybody to even mention. Genocide is completely normalized.

    • kava@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      edit-2
      6 days ago

      well said. I’m surprised at the reaction towards this specific event.

      the administration is purging the federal government, rerouting tens of thousands of federal agents to enforce immigration (literally 80% of ATF is now focused on immigration. DEA, FBI, IRS, and more are all being recruited to help with immigration), illegally ignoring court orders, using a Stasi-like group of unmarked federal agents to intimidate with threats of criminal prosecution and force people into compliance (look at what happened at the SS office or the non-profit U.S. Institute of Peace), giving executive orders that are blatantly and explicitly unconstitutional (like the one to end birthright citizenship)

      that isn’t even starting to mention the genocide happening in Palestine that is not only being condoned but openly embraced. we are arresting and attempting to deport individuals whose only crime is that they are anti-Israel. permanent residents are being denied entry into the country because they have a photo of a Hezbollah leader on their phone

      the administration is using coercion and threats to force over 60 universities (Colombia being the most visible) to change the things they are teach, abandon certain policies, suppress student speech, and dramatically increase police presence. all in the name of fighting “anti-semitism”

      it has only been a couple of months and right now Congress is making a stink about a text message

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      6 days ago

      Killing people in the middle east has been a source of income for us since the 1950s, a chat room error can only happen since the 90s, it’s the new interesting thing for the media to gawk at as people are being killed.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    29
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    6 days ago

    Democrats…“Why I oughta…If I only…boy oh boy are you ever…sigh”.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    6 days ago

    Heads should roll? Maybe, if you ask nicely, the French may share some equipment and experience.

    • martin4598@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      5 days ago

      We actually preserved a few ones. We would be happy to provide. We can even take the 25% tarrif on our account.