• psud@aussie.zone
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    7 days ago

    Remember there’s the neutral axis

    Some are chaotic neutral. They’re not out to wreck stuff, they just don’t care if they do

  • Owl@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    unless by lawful you mean they manipulate the law however they please with their money and connections, then no.

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 days ago

    This only counts because they use their money to make their lives “lawful” through legislation and capture of the courts, minimizing their very real crimes against humanity.

    Okay perhaps Buffett, Gates, and Cook haven’t gone as far as actual crimes against humanity but the rest have, and Buffett, Gates, and Cook are still unlawful but used their money to twist the laws in their favor.

    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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      You don’t understand Lawful Evil.

      In the Nine Hells, bending and breaking rules to your whim is the norm. It’s whether you get caught, and piss off someone powerful, that matters.

      • festnt@sh.itjust.works
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        breaking rules means they’re not lawful. that’s why demons are generaly described as chaotic

        if you do something unlawful, it means you’re not lawful, it doesn’t matter if you’re caught or not

    • sturlabragason@lemmy.world
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      By definition you can not get this rich without stealing the value of peoples labour - at scale.

      Aka evil as shit.

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    Funny to live in times when Villains are in power. Probably in 2060s they will compare them with Hitler.

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    7 days ago

    I remember a critique of DnD alignments for using ‘neutral’ instead of ‘selfish’ and this grid really proves that argument I think.

    • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de
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      The biggest problem with d&d axes is that people try to pick an alignment and then have their character’s actions come from it (and the resulting frequently induced cross-table talk with the eye-rolling phrase “a lawful/neutral/chaotic good/neutral/evil character wouldn’t do that! You’re X/Y, so you wouldn’t do that!”).

      No real person has every action fall within one of the outlying boxes’ bounds. Actually ‘moving’ yourself from the neutral spot is (supposed to be) beyond most mortals.

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        In quite a few cases across the different editions, this behavior is enforced by class requirements. Though even then it’s still dumb to argue about that unless you’re at the point that the GM has to seriously consider changing your alignment because your actions are so far beyond your character’s on-paper alignment.

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        Thats… Thats not how that alignment chart works at all :p. Lawful means they just follow the teachings of something, not that they themselves dictate it.
        Chaotic is all for your own personal gain

    • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
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      In the d&d alignment chart they are because capitalists have no inherent power outside of the laws that enforce their property. Devils in D&D will always break the rules(and rebel) if they think they can get away with it.

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        Huh? Devils are the corporate “trap you in fineprint and kill you with subclauses” type of evil. They are the ones who sell you the monkey’s paw and come to collect your soul no matter how it shakes out. Catching them in airtight clauses (or narrow loopholes) is famously how you screw over devils.