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    Only a shock to folks who still think Democrat centerists are what’s gonna win the votes

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          Because no matter who is in office they’re still part of the enrichment scheme that is our government. They don’t really care who wins or loses because it doesn’t really affect them.
          That’s why it’s important to be represented by the marginalized so that the decisions actually matter to the people making them.

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      I will vote for AOC with pride. But I’m leery about running another woman right now. Neither Hillary nor Kamala could win against Trump.

      That said, I can’t think of anyone I’d be happier to vote for. I dream of her being President. I don’t know if swing states will have it, but I would fight to make it so.

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        Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. There’s no statistical difference in the chances of victory between men and women when running for political office. Lots of Republican politicians are women. I don’t see it as a big deal.

        Also, lots of open racists voted for Obama. If you look at the polling and the interviews, it was much more about running conservative Democrats trying to get the votes of people who wanted to shake things up. That’s what Obama promised, that’s why Sanders would’ve won, by some measures, and it seems AOC is out there generating the same buzz.

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          There’s no statistical difference in the chances of victory between men and women when running for political office. Lots of Republican politicians are women. I don’t see it as a big deal.

          It’s only a deal because the democratic party is willing to hold back all women just to prevent the success of one progressive woman.

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        Hillary and Kamala were awful candidates - they wouldn’t have won if they were men or if it were the first coming of Christ. (I’m skeptical he ever arrived at all). The DNC is the blame for their failure. Hillary was out of touch. Kamala had too many issues to list.

        All that aside, they would have presidented circles around Trump.

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        I will vote for AOC with pride. But I’m leery about running another woman right now.

        …that we’re talking about a progressive woman.

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        I’m a huge AOC supporter, but she should wait a 2 or 3 cycles (if there are any cycles anymore). I’d rather see her take Schumer’s senate seat, and serve there for a term or two first, and succeed Bernie as the Senate’s progressive leader.

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      Needs a little Asterisk* next to centrist and a footnote

      *still way further left than any Republican

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          Yea harris is far from a progressive. She kept people in jail for bullshit marijuana charges.

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            District Attorneys work for cops and for the interest of the government. They’re worse than cops… They empower, protect, and exonerate cops.

            This isn’t a right wing smear, it’s a reality check for libs still clutching their pearls over their shitty candidate.

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        Cops are not progressive, they protect the interests of the state, not it’s people

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        She ran on exactly the same thing as Biden and backtracked on everything progressive she said in previous campaigns.