• Magicicad@lemmygrad.ml
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    Neither Beijing nor Washington (but actually Washington cause we’re considering everything on their terms).

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      Well the US is in a sense also totalitarian, no? Or perhaps more appropriately authoritarian, but even then basically the same as any state everywhere.

      The state needs to oppress its citizens in order to exercise dominance. Wether that be through political purges like Stalin did, or how American cops kill people since… every fucking president as soon as the US started existing lol.

      So I guess my point is no matter what, if a state exists, it will inherently become oppressive and therefore totalitarian. I want a stateless, moneyless, classless society just like every other socialist wants. And don’t get it fucked up, thats what ALL socialists are inevitably fighting for.

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        Socialists fight for the communist state, which usually oppresses the owning class only, but we surely can make an exception for you and only you, so you get oppressed too. We get rid of you and you get to complain about socialists oppressing you, win-win.

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        I mean yeah states are institutions of class power. But I believe that states can (and frankly must) be used strategically to suppress and eradicate the capitalist class.