• Delphia@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Its actually a lack of them.

    “Hey, can you move your bag so I can have that seat?”

    Is a profound lack of give a damn about how uncomfortable I make other people. They know what they are doing, quietly signalling that they dont want anybody sitting there. Other people who do have social graces will stand around quietly staring daggers and silently judging, Im just gonna make this shit awkward for the both of us.

    • LwL@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      I just have my bag on there because it’s more comfortable than having it between my legs.

      I mean, I also don’t want people sitting next to me, but the backpack is unrelated.

      But I also just remove it if I notice anyone making the slightest indication of wanting to sit there, provided the train is full enough that it seems unlikely for there to be any free double seats.

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        1 day ago

        Youre making excuses for the exact behaviour the article is complaining about. Even youre “ill gladly move my bag” sentence is full of ifs and maybes. There are tons of people in this thread making it clear the behaviour upsets them, but they wont act on it by telling you to be civil.

        Stop making excuses and share the public space.

        • LwL@lemmy.world
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          16 hours ago

          Sorry but I don’t give a fuck. Sitting with my bag between my legs is hella uncomfortable and I’m not dealing with that when there’s no reason to. 95% of the time the trains I’m on aren’t full enough for two people to need to sit next to each other. Literally the moment someone in the aisle slightly slows down I’ll move it on my lap for a bit in case they want to sit there if the opposite seat isnt just completely empty or I know that the train as a whole is.

          Do I like asking ppl to move their bag? Fuck no, I have social anxiety disorder, but it’s still not even remotely proportional to having my bag between my legs for no reason for 2 hours when there’s already not enough leg room.

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      1 day ago

      Yep, it’s the rules of the game.
      You just ask politely to move their bag, then passively offer to move their bag for them, then sling the bag onto the luggage rack and sit down.
      I’ve also been known to sit on someone’s lap when they refused to move their bag.

      (Obviously with the caveat of my tall privilege. It’s incredibly shit to ignore someone entirely and hope they go away)

    • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      I’m socialer than a motherfucker, and I would also immediately tell this person to move their bag. I think you may be confusing people with social graces and pushovers

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      2 days ago

      They know what they are doing, quietly signalling that they dont want anybody sitting there.

      Why would I give a fuck what they want? They are not entitled to the public space.

    • guy_threepwood@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Even easier, if you can get to the seat without asking them to move, just start to sit in it and the bag will be moved