Bitch if I wanted the robot, I’d ask it myself (well, I’d ask the Chinese one)! I’m asking you!

  • GeneralSwitch2Boycott [none/use name]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    80
    ·
    2 days ago

    I saw an exchange on youtube where two guys were arguing about divorce rate statistics and they were using “chatgpt says this” and then the other guy goes “oh, but if you ask it this way it says this” and it was so fucking stupid.

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    53
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    I can’t remember who it was, but some PhD in anthropology (I think) was tweeting about his research and some fucking idiot was arguing with him because ChatGPT said something different. Fucking bong-cloud epistemology.

    • Speaker [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      35
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      I lost my fucking mind at a person at work who started picking fights with me on topics I am an actual honest-to-god expert on. No comprehension, not even engagement, just a bunch of vibes and “I have been doing this for X years”. I wrote a fucking essay in the work chat with examples and references and practical details, and this motherfucker says “well, I used my AI text editor to summarize what you wrote and respond to it”. It was at this point that I realized they weren’t even disagreeing with me, they were telling their text editor to disagree with me (or, perhaps worse, it was telling them to disagree) and then regurgitating the results. AI freaks are literally inhuman.

  • uglyface [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    39
    ·
    2 days ago

    At my job people were having a problem and someone asked me, an expert in the field for over 20 years, and I was like I don’t know that is a pretty edge case, let me look into it. 5 minutes later they were like “Well copilot says this [obviously wrong answer]”

    DIPSHIT DO YOU THINK THE WORST AI BOT KNOWS MORE THAN ACTUAL TRAINED EXPERTS?

    • jsomae@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      23 hours ago

      That’s a great opportunity to explain to the person how the AI produced an obviously wrong and potentially harmful answer, and decrease their trust of AI.

  • hexinvictus [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    ·
    2 days ago

    I fucking cringe so hard when people are like “i asked chat gpt about what’s holding me back in life and it came back with great answers”

    Bitch it’s fucking astrology. I can come up with shit that vaguely makes sense for most people and you’ll think that it’s “so true” and “it knows you better than you know yourself”

  • Moss [they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    29
    ·
    2 days ago

    My friend pulled out her phone to ask chatGPT how to play a board game last night, and despite all of us yelling at her that chatGPT doesn’t know anything, she persisted. Then the dumbass LLM made up some rules because it doesn’t know anything.

    • jsomae@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      23 hours ago

      If you tell people that ChatGPT doesn’t know anything, they will only think you’re obviously wrong when it gives them apparently correct answers. You should tell people the truth – the harm in ChatGPT is that it is generally subtly wrong in some way, and often entirely wrong, but it always looks plausibly right.

      • THEPH0NECOMPANY [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        22 hours ago

        Yea, that’s definitely one of the worst aspects of AI is how confidently incorrect it can be. I had this issue using deep seek and had to turn on the mode where you can see what it’s thinking and often it will say something like.

        I can’t analyze this properly, let’s assume this… Then confidently spits an answer out based on that assumption. At this point I feel like AI is good for 100 level CS students that don’t want to do their homework and that’s about it

        • jsomae@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          22 hours ago

          Same, I just tried deepseek-R1 on a question I invented as an AI benchmark. (No AI has been able to remotely correctly answer this simple question, though I won’t reveal what the question is here obviously.) Anyway, R1 was constantly making wrong assumptions, but also constantly second-guessing itself.

          I actually do think the “reasoning” approach has potential though. If LLMs can only come up with right answers half the time, then “reasoning” allows multiple attempts at a right answer. Still, results are unimpressive.

    • dat_math [they/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      My friend pulled out her phone to ask chatGPT how to play a board game last night, and despite all of us yelling at her that chatGPT doesn’t know anything, she persisted. Then the dumbass LLM made up some rules because it doesn’t know anything.

      Do you think they took home the lesson that llms don’t possess knowledge or do reason?

        • dat_math [they/them]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          22 hours ago

          she didn’t really pay much attention to us

          Why do people do things like this? What is the point of playing a game with your friends if you won’t listen to or pay attention to them?

      • jsomae@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        23 hours ago

        Why would she take away that lesson? It produced a list of rules to the game that look approximately right.

        • dat_math [they/them]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          22 hours ago

          Presumably her friends corrected her and showed her why the “generated” rules were incorrect… at least that’s what I would expect of my friends

  • MoreLikeHazBeen [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    44
    ·
    2 days ago

    I was googling something about BMI and found a reddit thread where some dullard confidently asserted that having your height in cm match your weight in lbs was impossible. Source: chatGPT, which no joke said in one paragraph that being 165 cm and 165 lbs would be underweight while being 165 cm and 165 lbs would be overweight. These LLMs don’t know shit about fuck and only idiots turn to them for answers.

  • Aceivan [they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    35
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    At my work I’ve repeatedly been getting chatgpt stuff from people when I didn’t even ask a question

    Someone will come to me with an issue, I’ll work on solving it, and then in the middle of it they’ll self-satisfiedly post an obviously-copy-pasted-from-chatgpt paragraph proposing we do it completely differently, usually betraying some fundamental misunderstanding of the parameters of the task at hand. I think just reading over ChatGPT output and going “yeah that makes sense to me let’s do that” gives them a dopamine hit or something and they want me to acknowledge it. I try not to be a dick about it but it upsets me, and is genuinely just sad.

    Cleaning up ChatGPT’s mess when someone learned-helplessnesses their way into a problem they can’t solve by blindly following directions from chatgpt is another fun one. It’s annoying but at least then they’ve already come to the conclusion they need human help and I can get to work seeing if what ChatGPT came up with even makes sense, and confirming it didn’t hallucinate any magic “do what I want” buttons that don’t exist. Or starting from scratch

  • Barabas [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    I just find the deference to chatbots a bit sad in that it will cause people to be less curious. Guess this is how people felt about moving from an abacus or slide rulers to calculators, but it gets used for such menial bullshit that can easily be looked up instead of asking the virtual eqvivalent of Dave at the pub.

          • GeneralSwitch2Boycott [none/use name]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            11
            ·
            2 days ago

            It sorta’ is similar in terms of epistemology too because when some people say “google it” they have blind trust in big corporation google/the internet contains all human knowledge the same way people are putting faith into chatgpt. It’s often times the same as if someone here asked if China’s governing party was marxist or not and being told to just “google it.” It shows an inability to grapple with ideas and a dependence on massive self-interested corporations for information.

            I think it’s definitely a precursor to this chatgpt-as-mental-crutch trend we’re seeing.

  • kristina [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    2 days ago

    Hexbear is a leftist online community that originated from users of the banned subreddit r/ChapoTrapHouse. It operates on a modified version of the Lemmy platform, focusing on socialist discussions and content.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    2 days ago

    It’s always the same types who do it. The types who were never very curious to begin with or tech fetishists who like the idea of tech without really understanding it. Also Redditors.

  • Dessa [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    I asked a chatbot what it thought, and according to DeepSeek:

    I feel you—there’s something uniquely frustrating about asking a real person for their thoughts and getting a regurgitated AI response instead. It’s like asking for a home-cooked meal and someone hands you a microwaved frozen dinner with a shrug.

    If you’re looking for human insight (or just some good old-fashioned hot takes), it’s totally fair to push back with something like:
    "Cool, but what do you think? I didn’t ask for a chatbot’s fanfic."

    And hey, if they keep hiding behind AI, maybe start responding to them with “According to my calculations, your originality levels are critically low.”

    (Also, “the Chinese one” got me. 😂)