Leerlingen van de provinciale scholen in Oost-Vlaanderen mogen geen hoofddoek meer dragen op school. De Oost-Vlaamse provincieraad heeft het hoofddoekenverbod vanmiddag goedgekeurd, weliswaar met wisselmeerderheid met Vlaams Belang. Maar niet alle scholen zien dat zitten. "We vrezen dat meisjes met een hoofddoek nu voor thuisonderwijs gaan kiezen", klinkt het.
Why do we care about this again? like actually think about this again why would we care about symbols for a destructive right wing ideology being banned, think about this in literally any other context, u have a symbol for an incredibly fucked up right wing ideology that has at every turn in history been used to justify oppression, slavery, and war and it is being banned from public schools, the only people being “oppressed” are those who refuse to give up this terrible ideology, so again why should any decent person care. I swear whenever religion comes into the picture its like peoples brains just fucking melt and they loose the ability to think things thru.
Yeah you’re right, while we’re at it we should also ban dying your hair, or piercings, because they come from the “woke” ideology, which is synonymous with nazism. Actually, all women should be required to maintain long hair and not cut it short. It should also be dyed blonde if not naturally blonde. Oh and blue colored eyes. We need to fight the right-wing authoritarian ideology of woke genderism, cuz things like dyed hair and piercings and tattoos are what the nazi-left uses to “oppress” women.
well fuck you too i guess dont come here insulting me by putting words in my mouth i clearly disagree with, literally nothing i said has anything to do with any of the garbage u just put in my mouth if u are going to argue with someone atleast talk to what they said instead of making up shit. Actual fucking clown behavior.
On what grounds do you claim that a head scarf is a universal symbol of destruction? Don’t answer that, you don’t have grounds and you’d just give an Islamophobic spew if you tried.
Could you imagine if Belgium was like “we’re banning cowboy hats because they’re associated with Yankees and the Yankees have been historical terrorists.” That’d at least make more sense than this because the terror done by the US is much more real than any terror ascribed to modern Islam - and in fact some of the actual terror coming from Muslims in recent history is fomented by the US in the first place. But somehow I doubt you’d think it’s reasonable, regardless.
When you put this in context, yeah, that thing you were being rude about others supposedly not doing, it’s just white supremacy vilifying the non-white person again, under the guise of the non-white person ascribing to a “bad ideology”, while ignoring the fundamentally oppressive power dynamic and the galling hypocrisy of pretending to care about “extremism” while the institution of white supremacy continues to treat the world like a punching bag, coin purse, and beachfront property.
there is well over a 1000 years of history that proof what islam and most organized religions are and have always been and what they do you would have to be deliberately blind to not see it. as for banning cowboys boots i would mostly think its funny but if there is a difference between those 2 is that banning cowboys boots targets a culture where as banning religious symbols targets an ideology a more accurate comparison would be banning american flags and i would think thats based as fuck.
as for so much of the terror and cruelty and oppression today coming from islam being the fault of america ofcourse it is, islam is a tool of oppression it has been used by every empire that could before and so it is used by the latest one you are arguing my point for me.
Except I’m not. Belgium isn’t banning American flags here, nor tackling their own systemic problems of white supremacy and support for imperialism with a rule like this. They are reinforcing the position of white chauvinist moral authority over non-white people. It is precisely part of the colonial and imperial dynamic that says “this group over here is savages and is incapable of self-determining as a people how to behave.”
As for your attempt to distinguish culture and ideology, they are often intertwined and it’s not so simple in practice that you can just target the one without targeting the other. I’m quite sure you haven’t talked to the Muslims in that area and found out the reasons they wear a head scarf. As far as I can tell, your line of reasoning goes something like: “Religion always bad -> This is 100% a symbol of participation in organized religion and can’t mean anything else, or beyond that -> Therefore, banning it cannot be anything but good.” This is nonsense though. I am not personally a fan of organized religion, but when I came to understand views about imperialism and communism and so on, it became important for me to look at it with a broader lens. Take the Palestinian cause, for example. It would be tantamount to siding with zionists to focus on Hamas not being secular while they are sacrificing their lives trying to survive a genocide and to side with colonizer talking points against Hamas because of any religiosity they have. Palestinians who are directly involved in the struggle can contend with that, but as an outsiders, it is foolish for us to try to judge from an ivory tower.
This kind of ivory tower judging is how people arrive at “ultra-left” stances that are inadvertently aligned with the western empire, instead of in opposition to it. You don’t have to like Islam to understand that Belgium is a part of the white supremacist, imperialist order and that when they target Muslims in a way like this, it has nothing to do with liberating people from an oppressive ideology and everything to do with treating them as lesser and exercising control over them as a people. They aren’t saving women, they are subverting self-determination.
Why do we care about this again? like actually think about this again why would we care about symbols for a destructive right wing ideology being banned, think about this in literally any other context, u have a symbol for an incredibly fucked up right wing ideology that has at every turn in history been used to justify oppression, slavery, and war and it is being banned from public schools, the only people being “oppressed” are those who refuse to give up this terrible ideology, so again why should any decent person care. I swear whenever religion comes into the picture its like peoples brains just fucking melt and they loose the ability to think things thru.
you’re a racist Islamophobic piece of shit. get lost
Yeah you’re right, while we’re at it we should also ban dying your hair, or piercings, because they come from the “woke” ideology, which is synonymous with nazism. Actually, all women should be required to maintain long hair and not cut it short. It should also be dyed blonde if not naturally blonde. Oh and blue colored eyes. We need to fight the right-wing authoritarian ideology of woke genderism, cuz things like dyed hair and piercings and tattoos are what the nazi-left uses to “oppress” women.
I am very smart.
well fuck you too i guess dont come here insulting me by putting words in my mouth i clearly disagree with, literally nothing i said has anything to do with any of the garbage u just put in my mouth if u are going to argue with someone atleast talk to what they said instead of making up shit. Actual fucking clown behavior.
On what grounds do you claim that a head scarf is a universal symbol of destruction? Don’t answer that, you don’t have grounds and you’d just give an Islamophobic spew if you tried.
Could you imagine if Belgium was like “we’re banning cowboy hats because they’re associated with Yankees and the Yankees have been historical terrorists.” That’d at least make more sense than this because the terror done by the US is much more real than any terror ascribed to modern Islam - and in fact some of the actual terror coming from Muslims in recent history is fomented by the US in the first place. But somehow I doubt you’d think it’s reasonable, regardless.
When you put this in context, yeah, that thing you were being rude about others supposedly not doing, it’s just white supremacy vilifying the non-white person again, under the guise of the non-white person ascribing to a “bad ideology”, while ignoring the fundamentally oppressive power dynamic and the galling hypocrisy of pretending to care about “extremism” while the institution of white supremacy continues to treat the world like a punching bag, coin purse, and beachfront property.
there is well over a 1000 years of history that proof what islam and most organized religions are and have always been and what they do you would have to be deliberately blind to not see it. as for banning cowboys boots i would mostly think its funny but if there is a difference between those 2 is that banning cowboys boots targets a culture where as banning religious symbols targets an ideology a more accurate comparison would be banning american flags and i would think thats based as fuck.
as for so much of the terror and cruelty and oppression today coming from islam being the fault of america ofcourse it is, islam is a tool of oppression it has been used by every empire that could before and so it is used by the latest one you are arguing my point for me.
Except I’m not. Belgium isn’t banning American flags here, nor tackling their own systemic problems of white supremacy and support for imperialism with a rule like this. They are reinforcing the position of white chauvinist moral authority over non-white people. It is precisely part of the colonial and imperial dynamic that says “this group over here is savages and is incapable of self-determining as a people how to behave.”
As for your attempt to distinguish culture and ideology, they are often intertwined and it’s not so simple in practice that you can just target the one without targeting the other. I’m quite sure you haven’t talked to the Muslims in that area and found out the reasons they wear a head scarf. As far as I can tell, your line of reasoning goes something like: “Religion always bad -> This is 100% a symbol of participation in organized religion and can’t mean anything else, or beyond that -> Therefore, banning it cannot be anything but good.” This is nonsense though. I am not personally a fan of organized religion, but when I came to understand views about imperialism and communism and so on, it became important for me to look at it with a broader lens. Take the Palestinian cause, for example. It would be tantamount to siding with zionists to focus on Hamas not being secular while they are sacrificing their lives trying to survive a genocide and to side with colonizer talking points against Hamas because of any religiosity they have. Palestinians who are directly involved in the struggle can contend with that, but as an outsiders, it is foolish for us to try to judge from an ivory tower.
This kind of ivory tower judging is how people arrive at “ultra-left” stances that are inadvertently aligned with the western empire, instead of in opposition to it. You don’t have to like Islam to understand that Belgium is a part of the white supremacist, imperialist order and that when they target Muslims in a way like this, it has nothing to do with liberating people from an oppressive ideology and everything to do with treating them as lesser and exercising control over them as a people. They aren’t saving women, they are subverting self-determination.
Do you, like, read any of the other replies here or are you just here to rant?
I did read them and its just nonsense.