On any of the donation threads where it came up and he replied to it, the most he ever did was some half hearted corporate PR “apology” (ironic)

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    what if there was 3 sections for sports: male at birth, women at birth, and then a mixed thing in which anyone could compete

    I don’t really see the problem with that sorta system

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          22 hours ago

          Can’t use public bathroom for their gender even if they look like any other member of their gender.

          Can’t use public bathroom for their assigned-at-birth gender because they don’t look like that gender anymore and it will feel - and be - unsafe.

          Can’t enter their country of origin because their passport does not match their gender

          Frequently harassed and ostracized, increasingly likely they will be denied healthcare that helps keep them alive

          We’re not playing the “who had it worse” game because everyone loses.

          But they are absolutely fucking oppressed.

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            15 hours ago

            Where do you base this on?

            also i’m not sure if slavery and lynching are the same as being denied a bathroom.

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              Base what on? The countless stories of transgender (and cis misgendered) people being harassed in and around bathrooms?

              The understanding based on real world experience that many transgender people pass as their gender, and therefore are clearly out of place in bathrooms meant for the gender that was assigned to them at birth?

              The executive orders attempting to erase the recognition of transgender people entirely and require them to have the same gender listed on their passport as they did on their birth certificate? The State Department not returning or renewing passports for transgender people?

              also i’m not sure if slavery and lynching are the same as being denied a bathroom.

              How many times does this need to be said? How many times do majorities need to fucking hear this about minorities?

              We’re not playing the “who has it worse” game because everyone loses.

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                I mean you’re kinda making a blanket statement, I can’t really work with ‘countless stories’ – Can ya specify?

                And please, don’t hold me accountable for making the comparison. I never made the comparison, perhaps you should tell the above user

                We’re not playing the “who has it worse” game because everyone loses.

                And also, I’m not a majority. I’m a minority as well.

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        yeah but segregating water fountains is different because the only reason it was done was bc of racism, there only needs to be one fountain

        in sports men are inheritly stronger than women, so it makes sense to segregate them like that. now idk about how people transitioning from male to female or visa versa works with this, but if someone who was born male transitions to female but somehow retains some of that inherit strength (like say, they’ve got different bone structure or their muscles developed differently, or something that hormones cant change), I think they could have an advantage over other women in that sport.

        I don’t wanna come off as transphobic or something, I don’t know much about all this, but I hope you see my point

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          I suspect the fact that you don’t know much about it is why you are parroting widely discredited transphobic talking points.

          The point is that today, we see clearly with the benefit of hindsight that racial segregation was done purely for the sake of racism. At the time, people muddied the waters with pseudoscientific rationalizations like phrenology and eugenics to mislead the masses and justify their bigotry, just like people are doing today with trans people in sports.

          The only reason water fountains are seen as different is because the racists lost and we collectively have a new perspective after decades of integration. The transphobes are still empowered. Make no mistake, the bigots would love to reinstate all manner of segregation if they could, racial or otherwise. Trans people are just an easier target right now.

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            10 hours ago

            Do you disagree that men have a biological advantage over women when it comes to physical prowess and strength?