Hasan Piker, the biggest progressive political streamer in America, was detained by Customs and Border Protection for hours of questioning upon returning to the U.S. from a trip to France this weekend. Piker posted about the incident on X and later talked about it on stream.
He was detained in Chiago and questioned for two hours about protected journalistic activities like who he’s interviewed and his political beliefs. He was asked whether or not he’d interviewed Hamas, Houthis, or Hezbollah members. He was questioned about his opinions on Trump and Israel and asked about his history of bans on Twitch. His phone and laptop were not confiscated.
No fan of Hasan, but this shouldn’t be happening to anyone.
Who asked?
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You desperately need to escape the bubble that you’re in as a member of Ethan’s community. He’s become a useful idiot for Israeli propagandists and now even the fascists - as evidenced by the details of Ethan’s false accusations against Hasan being brought up by the CBP agent who detained him. By attacking and slandering pro-Palestinian content creators and influencers he feels personally slighted by he is unwittingly doing the bidding of Netanyahu and Trump both.
Ew theres h3 fans on lemmy :(
I’m not a H3 fan but Hasan and his followers are toxic shitbags that have been relentless harassing the Kleins by peddling false rumours of child abuse and maliciously calling CPS on them. And iDubbbz is frankly a hypocrite for how he handled his excuse of a Content Cop on H3.
Hasan decries these acts btw.
And we don’t even know who’s making the call. Sure, Hasan represents a sizable community that on the whole is against H3, but there is still room for other actors in that balance equation. H3 has rubbed off a lot of their own fans. Could those people also be suspect? We don’t know for sure.
There is literally video evidence of Denims (a streamer strongly associated with Hasan’s circle chatting to her viewers about calling CPS on the Kleins.) Unfortunately finding the footage itself was hard so I had to rely on a clip of Asmongold reacting to the drama. And before you tell me she isn’t… she’s collabed with Hasan a few times, defended him in this whole spat, and even appeared alongside him and fr0gan in the Content Cop H3 video. Apparently some of the disinformative tweets about Ethan were actually replied to/reposted by Anisa (Ian’s wife) too.
iDubbbz didn’t even mention the CPS situation once in his Content Cop video (important for the context of the clips he was using to make Ethan look bad), and even in his Content Deputy response his whole response to this was just bad.
Releasing that Content Cop in the first place made Ian look like a massive hypocrite, especially when he effectively apologized for his past series and some of the hurtful things he said. It’s clear he only dropped his latest CC out of desperation because he lost a lot of viewership from how badly he’s handled drama surrounding Creator Clash.
So not Hasan?
Where is your proof that Hasan personally told his chat to call in the CPS check?
what makes you think i’m an h3 fan? maybe i’m just critical of hasan
Doesn’t excuse linking to Zionists.
He literally supports terrorism on stream - no wonder he got in trouble
Lmao at the number of downvotes, another W for lemmy.
If you’re actually curious about why someone might see a group like the Houthis differently than the US state department does, here’s an excellent explanation by a well-known and respected Israeli political scientist on the matter. You’re free to disagree with him, but there’s good reason to be skeptical of the terror designation and more reason still why recognizing their support against a genocide certainly shouldn’t be viewed as an endorsement of their ideological perspective.
Seeing the downvotes on this moron makes me think I’m in the right community. Thanks lemmings. Rodents strong together. 🐁
Defamatory accusations like this literally need a video source.
Hitchen’s razor: “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”
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His takes are pretty well known outside of the echo chambers like this one. It’s worth noting that I delivered the proof and it got downvoted to oblivion - people here specifically DO NOT want to hear the truth
Where’s this proof? All I see is you linking to a video of him saying America deserved retaliation from all the peoples it’s fucked over, over the years.
Insensitive and inflammatory sure, but it is not supporting terrorism.
I initially linked to open letter by congressman Torres that talks in detail about what Hasan said live on stream. That letter includes PDF with all the evidence - citations, and clips with all the shit Hasan said.
Thanks.
Okay, so I’ve had a bit of a read. First off there is nothing to directly ‘confirm’ he supports terrorists, at best/worst he ‘has “no issue” with Hezbollah’ and he interviewed someone labeled the ‘Yemeni Pirate’ who went viral on TikTok leading to the aforementioned interview. This figure says they are not part of the Houthi, but they were on a vessel seized by the Houthi, he could simply be a paid mercenary so we can’t confirm or deny if they actually are Houthi.
The Jewish stuff isn’t worth touching. It’s 100% going to be something critical of Israel/Zionism framed as antisemitism or terrorism.
Mocking a Republican congressman and thanking the opposing side of the US invasion of Afghanistan for injuring them isn’t terrorism, it’s just funny af. Fuck Republicans.
I’ve received a fair few reports for your posts tbh in regards to false accusations, but the Yemeni guy thing is a bit iffy, and he may have used his platform to promote a terrorist. So I’m going to leave it all up.
Thank you for small dose of sanity, even if I don’t agree with your interpretation of Hasans claims
Hasan has never supported terrorism on stream. Go back to drooling at the rat shaker
And fr0gan (part of his group) got a Twitch ban for literally wishing PTSD upon American soldiers.
Super based.
Based.
That is nonsense, cite your sources
Here are my sources, Sam Seder dismantling Ethan Klein while Hasan gives context to all the lazy slander y’all are leveling at him.
https://youtu.be/nrwtpG-jidU
Ethan Klein, known piece of internet trash.
Ethan Klein, notorious ignoramus
Which part is nonsense? The part where he said the houthis actions were a good thing, the part in the full debate you linked where he quadrupled down on it, or the fact that the houthis are registered as a terrorist organization and have kidnapped and held innocent civilians hostage for a year?
I saw the full unedited Ethan and Hasan debate, and Hasan’s context and excuses just made me disgusted.
You’re doing the thing.
Hasan explained why he supports the Houthis actions, why are you leaving out that context? Is it because most people might actually sympathize with it as well? Y’all just can’t help yourselves with your outrage, can you? lmfao
No one sympathizes with the houthis.
Also I’m not leaving out any context. There is no universe where anything the houthis did was excusable. Hasan did explain it, and it made him look worse. He tries to justify the kidnapping of innocent civilians (some Asian workers who had nothing to do with it, who were working on a brittish vessel only partially owned by some Jewish person.) and holding them hostage for a year in that debate. “What else were they supposed to do?” How about not terrorism? How about going to Palestine? How about activism, propaganda, anything other than terrorism?
While you scrutinize the finer points of morality relating to the detainment of sailors as part of an economic blockade, Israel is intentionally starving millions of children. Your priorities are so out of whack it’s absurd that you don’t recognize it. You don’t have to support the Houthis to acknowledge that their economic blockade of Israel is justified. If engaging in that level of nuance makes me a terrorist in your eyes, you’ve completely lost the plot.
Besides, the word terrorist has always been used by the US as a propaganda tool to paint specific militant groups that are enemies of US empire as barbaric and inhuman. If the basic definition of terrorism were applied fairly across the board then the IDF and US military would be considered the most prolific terrorists and the US and Israel the largest state sponsors of terror. The standard of violence is set by the oppressors.
WTF has this to do with priorities? Just because i despise the israeli government and the action they take i have to give hasan a pass when he blurts out insane takes on a daily basis?
Yeah, and i agree the US and Israel are in some ways full blown terror regimes which did horrible things. Doesnt take away from the fact that Hamas, Hezbollah or the Houthis are terror orgs. Yeah, sure the US caused probably more harm over the last century then the three groups together. But that doesnt legitimize anything ffs.
Hasan fans should really start reading books about the matters they are so invested in instead of just parroting some dumbass twitch streamer.
Nobody’s asking you to “give Hasan a pass” but we’re asking you to see the Palestinian issue from the eyes of a neighbour who doesn’t see any recourse from the international community against the heinous acts perpetrated by the Israeli regime and the IDF against civilians in Gaza and other regions nearby. If nobody punishes a bully am I a bully myself if I intervene to defend the bullied person? I personally don’t think so, especially if the teachers and the principal constantly side with the bully against the bullied.
This will never sit well with me, I’ll personally take matters into my own hands anytime I see a situation where someone powerful acts against someone poor, especially when the institutions tasked with defending those who aren’t powerful sit in a corner fiddling their fingers and not acting in line with their declared objectives.
This being said I despise any kind of religious extremism (any religion at all in fact, but I don’t expect everybody to become atheist all of a sudden. I completely expect everybody not to be an extremists tho) so I also despise the founding reasons of Hamas, the houtis, the islamic brotherhood or any other religious organisation. But still I understand and justify their reasons for being in a fight against Israel.
I don’t understand and I don’t justify the stances of international organisations which should be defending the Palestinian people and who are the cause why I have to support religious extremists in this specific context (looking at UN aggressively)
You are vaguely referencing a bunch of stuff and simultaneously being angry I am not being specific enough.
Be specific, what are you claiming Hasan has done illegally or wrongly? You claim he “supports” a “terrorist” organization but the onus is on you to prove in exhaustive and specific terms why I should believe you when you say the words “support” and '“terrorist” that you aren’t just moving empty hot air and hate around with your mouth.
Nobody is surprised by this, your behavior makes it crystal clear this is the kind of position you would have.
You’re trying to delegitimize what I’m saying by saying I’m emotional and unspecific, and attacking my character. You’re purposefully playing dumb to avoid the actual point I’m making. Then you try to move the goalpost by asking what he’s done that is illegal or wrong, which is not what I’m talking about.
Here are the direct quotes so there is no mistaking it. Both points were reiterated in the video you linked.
“I think what the houthis are doing is a good thing” -Hasan
“We support you” -Hasan when interviewing a houthi terrorist.
Hasan is a terrorist supporter as evident by the above direct quotes.
As for what I found disgusting was when he excused his claims about the rape allegations being false and saying there was no evidence. Also in the video you linked.
What is your point with this? Are you shaming me for watching the full debate that was supposed to clear everything up on both sides? Also didn’t you just link an asmongold-style reaction video to that whole debate?
That’s pretty vague. If I said I support what America does, that doesn’t necessarily mean I support the worst actions the state has ever taken.
Again, just because a group ends up on a terrorist list doesn’t really mean much besides that they’re currently unaligned with US interest. The “terrorist” dogma has really lost its bite since the war on terror began.
If the context was “America kidnapped civilians” and someone said “I think what the Americans are doing is a good thing”, then yes, that would paint a bad picture. And it was vague at first but after Hasan explained himself in the debate, it became clear that he was excusing the kidnappings.
Do you not think what they did was terrorism? Do you want to explain to the hostages that they were just overreacting and that their kidnappers actually aren’t that bad, and it’s just some dogma?
It would actually read something more like “US Navy detains cargo crew in violation of blockaid”
I don’t think most Americans know just how much they’re propagandized, even through mundane things like headline word choices.
Operating a shipping blockaid is a boilerplate armed conflict strategy. No, this doesn’t qualify as terrorism IMO.
Do you think Americans are doing a good thing?
lol someone from programmingdev would have different political views they never see political posts
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“America deserved 9/11”
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15uuk6hXOmFWT96QzdoCtPZLylOPjHoVa/view
His own words, from his own stream. Your argument is invalid
We did, tho.
We literally murdered 100s of thousands prior to 9/11 and then we proceeded to murder millions of innocents after. We still deserve it.
I wouldn’t say deserve, but I’m not surprised it happened.
Here is a simple question, if Hasan did say the U.S. “deserved” 9/11 like the fear mongers in this thread are trying to twist his words into and he meant it the way y’all claim he did, wouldn’t he still be calling for more terrorism against the U.S.?
If Hasan isn’t actively calling for terrorism… what made him stop? Does he think the score was settled and it is back to U.S.-50 points vs Radical Islam -50 points on the scoreboard?
No, Hasan is clearly making a point about how blowback from brutal imperial practices becomes nearly inveitable after a certain point, the use of “deserve” he is to denote how in a system where people act as political representatives of groups and derive power from publicly representing them, the more one group commits violence against another group the more likely the group of victims are to retaliate with force.
To make the logical jump that this must mean that Hasan wants more 9/11s to happen to the U.S. where random U.S. citizens are indiscriminately killed as a symbol for something they do not control is disengenous to the extreme, and I have said elsewhere in this thread, a step in an extremely dangerous direction for the health and free speech of our society.
If you actively do something to someone, and have the prior knowledge to know what their response will be, you deserve that obvious response. If you antagonize another perpetually, you deserve their strike back. It’s not hard to follow, we literally teach this to toddlers. Violence and hate begets violence and hate, and people can only take so much before snapping.
The only people who don’t get it are maladjusted humans who were sheltered from consequences in the past.
I don’t think that we should teach toddlers, or anyone, really, that anyone ever deserves violence.
If you go around punching people for kicks, you deserve to be punched back. Especially when you refuse to listen to others who tell you that you shouldn’t punch.
Sometimes, people deserve what they directly cause. They reap what they sew. It’s the nature of the world.
Are you willfully ignorant in order to be argumentative?
We teach toddlers to have manners and act politely and treat others with respect.
The reason we have all those things is to prevent an emotional lash out from those others. We do it because we don’t know what kind of control they might have at that moment and we do our best to maintain calm. We keep the peace.
THAT is the point. Go back and read it again.
That and we had intel that such an attack was imminent and the Bush administration was okay with it bc they wanted to kill millions more.
So the ~3000 people who were killed “deserved it”? What did they do?
ETA Jesus fucking Christ, I did not expect that “mass murder is bad” would be an unpopular opinion. Y’all are genuinely disgusting and hopefully on a watchlist of some sort.
They worked under the US, and reaped the benefits of our imperialist actions. obviously no one deserves to be murdered, but we are all culpable for the violence our nation commits, because we’re the ones keeping it running. The US deserved retaliation for what it partook in during the cold war, and that retaliation was never going to only include guilty parties.
EDIT: let me put it in another perspective: if you went to a foreign nation which operated on slavery, started working there, enjoyed the goods and services provided to you by the enslaved, and socialized with the enslavers, why would you ever expect sympathy from the enslaved? You chose who to help, who to do business with, and you chose the enslavers. It really doesn’t matter if you talked about slavery being fucked up behind closed doors, you enjoyed the value ripped from the enslaved. You’re now just as culpable as the enslavers.
Edit 2: made some edits communicating some further nuance regarding the subject. 9/11 was a tragedy, but it is largely overshadowed by the sheer scale of death our conflict with the Middle-East has had.
Would you go off yourself to stop the machine? Would you go to jail to fight for the cause? Would you sacrifice your family if it meant it would nudge anti capitalism movement?
Maybe read “Those who walk away from Omelas” and realize there’s many more productive ways to work against an oppressive nation, ranging from damaging its function to not participating in the systems which you don’t approve of.
There’s also the concept of ‘activation’, which is the slow process of learning to oppose authority in increments. It takes time to unlearn the docility the system imposes on us. Most Americans don’t even feel comfortable showing up to protests, let alone violently opposing the state.
If I die from middle eastern retaliation, I’m not gonna act surprised. If our nation was invaded, I’m not exactly gonna be lining up to volunteer defending it. We live in a country that does a vast amount of damage to the world, and I’m sick of pretending like us US citizens aren’t all small parts of the problem, because we’re letting this happen .
Jesus fuck, the political extremists have escaped the tankie containment instances
I’m an anarchist on the same instance as you are, I agree with the idea that US’s geopolitical games had to have a blowback at some point.
Should the 3000+ died? Probably not. Would someone at some point have died due to the blowback at some point? Most likely. Can’t say when or where, or how many.
But people were (understandably) seething with hatred for what America did to their nations and cultures. Removing elected leaders for autocratic dictators, assassinating people to help aid in anti-communist efforts, and so on. America was not innocent in the region pre-9/11.
The people in the towers probably had nothing to do even tangentially related to the reasons for 9/11 to be done in the eyes of the Al Queda, beyond “they are in the buildings tied to American capitalism, valid target in our eyes.”
I’m not a tankie, so I wouldn’t be on a tankie instance. Other radical views exist outside Maoism and Marxist-Leninism.
I’m not saying those 3000 people deserved to die. It is sad that they died. The US as a whole had it coming, and it would have been better if only the government or combatants were targeted. But to act like the US citizens who died on 9/11 were completely innocent bystanders is also unrealistic. It’s sad that settler families were slaughtered by native Americans, but I’m not going to act like it was completely evil that they were targeted, especially after we were slaughtering tribes en masse with our military.
Ye the Palestinians should just die already and let the last of their land be stolen by Jizzrael and the Ussa
Wow. Just… wow. That’s an extremely callous attitude.
So is our foreign policy. We live in a fucked up world. US citizens don’t deserve more respect than Middle-Eastern peoples, and far more Middle-Easterners have died unjustly prior to and after 9/11 than Americans did in 9/11. You either pretend like middle-eastern lives are without worth, become overwhelmed from the sheer amount of death, or you grow callous.
The 5 dancing Isralies would agree america deserved 9/11.
“America Deserved 9/11”
-Hassan Piker
Add also a solid bunch of antisemitism to that. Dude, is a god damn lunatic.
Ironically, conflating antisemitism with antizionism is antisemitic.
Let’s phrase this a different way. “America reaped what it sowed,” or “America made its bed and is now lying in it.” This is a pretty solid “yup” from me. We armed, trained, and funded the leaders of the group that carried out the attack, among many other things
If only the person you’re replying to wasn’t dumber than a fucking rock.
Hey now, I’ve met some pretty goddam intelligent rocks in my time.
No one is arguing whether America or Israel is bad.
No one deserved to be killed or lose their loved ones on 9/11 or any other event. Thinking that civilians deserve to die because a government is bad is terrorist mentality.
When someone says “America,” it seems obvious they’re talking about the country as a whole or its leadership, and not individual people. He very clearly is not saying “Americans deserved to die.”
That is not as obvious as you think it is. I would argue that the first thing most people would think it meant is “americans deserved to die”, not “the Bush administration deserved the scrutiny and criticism it brought”
Tell me what trial did bush or subsequent war criminal administration faced to make it an argument that people don’t support their actions?
One even got a nobel peace prize, despite war crimes. Got no pushback from the populace.
If you harbor criminals with open records (who knows how many closed records), be ready for some retaliation?
Isnt this what US/Israel claims when they attack civs? But somehow they’re never labeled poorly as “war crimes” or “terrorists”. hmm… makes you think
But don’t be afraid call all the region terrorists, if it makes you sleep better.
Lol your most solid source is a random post from some politician’s web page?
He opposes terrorism. Which is why he opposes Israel. Which is what gets him in trouble.
He may also have said some things in support of terrorism by Hamas, which would be fucked up in my opinion. I don’t know and I have no plans to take this web page seriously about it. He is still allowed to go on the internet and say those things, according to the first amendment, and this attempt to threaten him about it is horrifying whatever his opinions are. What part of “I get to say whatever the fuck I want because those are my opinions” doesn’t make sense here?
Dude, you have a PDF there with ALL THE RELEVANT CITATIONS AND CLIPS from his streams in second paragraph. This is the primary source. You can’t bring anything better to the table.
Also, you don’t have to watch Hasan Piker for long to see that this characterization of him is totally absurd, I don’t know whether it is more embarassing that people actually believe Hasan Piker is like this or that they are willing to lie so boldfacedly about it.
Hasan doesn’t advocate for violence like this, I am sure he has said some spicey shit but trying to frame his as a terrorist is a dangerous road to walk and these people are doing it gleefully.
Promoting terrorism isn’t protected by free speech laws. Never was, never will be
Promoting terrorism by saying Israel “has every right to defend themselves,” is 100% protected. Both by the current application of the law, and by its proper intent. I’m actually not very concerned with the current application of the law to pro-Palestinian advocacy (“Palestine has every right to defend themselves”) because the current application is a bunch of tyrannical bullshit, and I hope we are able to restore it to something sort of adjacent to good sense and the intent of the framers soon.
You’re advocating for it being legal to advocate for terrorism, or in fact to commit it, but illegal to make terrorists uncomfortable by making edgelord statements, if the terrorists or their friends happen to be in power. That is a profoundly fucked up point of view. Pretty much every terroristic regime has usually labelled any resistance to them as “terrorism” as one of the key steps in making it illegal to resist their terrorism.
If you’re having trouble grasping what I am saying, I am saying that Israel’s mass slaughter of civilians including torture, starvation, bombing of hospitals, deliberately shooting children, basically any type of war crime you could think of, is terrorism. So far they have committed roughly 50 September 11ths in Gaza, at least, and they have plans to do many many more.
Hamas does commit terrorism also, yes, although far less than Israel. But the main thing I am saying is that supporting terrorism is unequivocally legal, and very popular, in the United States, as long as the terrorism is being done by our friends.
Yeah but he doesnt know and doesnt care.
You zionits been using antisemitism claim till it lost all it’s meaning
This has to be troll
I don’t think so.
Many people have been calling anything speaking against Israel and its actions (genocide) in Palestine antisemitic, when it’s not saying anything about Jewish people or Judaism. Criticism against the existence of or actions of Israel is, more accurately, anti-Zionism, which isn’t racism and doesn’t deserve any special protection, just like criticism of American hegemony isn’t racism.
Found the genocide supporting zionazi
Enjoy arguing with man children level arguments.
Hassan is as much of a leftist as Srump or The Dipshit are right wing.