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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to technology@hexbear.netEnglish · 4 days ago

China offers an alternative to Western ‘technofeudalism’

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Opinion | China offers an alternative to Western ‘technofeudalism’
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China’s answer to the Western model focuses on planning, an open source approach and whether the new technology earns its place in society.

https://archive.ph/MnjB5

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    Is it a good alternative?

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      Better than having FAANG+ dominate the human species.

      I thought competition was a good thing?

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        Honestly agreed.

        But that’s not what the alternative is. That’s not what’s happening in the U.S, at least currently.

        Also agreed only within what China currently is. Not what it could become.

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          China already sells surveillance equipment to willing buyers in the EU and Asia. Pakistan’s Chinese weaponry has already shown itself.

          Governments already seek China’s level of authority, it’s the only way forward.

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      Absolutely, especially given that a lot of it is based on open source technology such as RISCV. Similarly, China is releasing open models like DeepSeek while US companies are pursuing closed service approach.

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        Ah yes, let’s just ignore the authoritarianism and fascism because it’s open source :3

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          Since when is China fascist in any sense of the word?

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            Maybe if we’re referring to white terror-era Republic Of China.

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          The US is fascist. China actually has a democracy.

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            1. Agreed
            2. No lol

            At no point did I praise the U.S. why are y’all thinking I did.

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              What do you know about the government of the PRC? Have you read about whole process people’s democracy? I’m sure you’ve investigated it thouroghly since you’re making definitive statements about it. Could you please be specific about why you don’t view the system in China as a democracy.

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                No real freedom of speech.

                I could throw this same bad argument back at you about the United States.

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                  Freedom of speech isn’t a real thing lmao.

                  The US kidnaps people and imprisons them in cruel conditions if they have soccer tattoos.

                  The FBI sent letters to MLK Jr. telling him to end his own life.

                  The US stole indigenous land by writing deals they would break.

                  China did what? Give free education? Crush a cult (Falun Gong) lift 800 million people out of poverty as defined by the World Bank

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                    China (bad) stole the Lamas’ serfs!

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                  I’m gonna go yell “Fire” in a crowded theatre and see what happens

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                    Alright I’m blocking hexbear. Y’all can’t make a solid argument to save your lives.

                    That’s not freedom of speech. Nither is CP.

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                  Freedom of speech does not exist anywhere and is an idealist myth constructed for the purpose of western imperialist chauvinism. This is why it is easy for people here to clock your liberalism.

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                    Lol I am a leftist.

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                  In what way do people in China not have freedom of speech?

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                    ???

                    Have you been living under a rock?

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          I thought we were talking about China and not the US kiddo.

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          Authoritarianism isn’t a fucking thing. And China isn’t fascist in any meaningful sense of the word. Why the fuck are you carrying water for the American Empire and siding against the country that every imperialist is currently salivating over destroying?

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            Pont exactly where I “carried water for the American Empire”

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              Your parroting of imperialist talking points and language.

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                So in order to not be carrying water for the U.S. I need to disagree with literally everything they say?

                I’m not parroting. All words and opinions are mine.

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                  I’m not parroting. All words and opinions are mine.

                  data-laughing

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                  They are not yours, they have been given to you. They were presented to you, already made, and you accepted them.

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                  Your words and opinions are a regurgitation of ancient red scare propaganda. They are easy to recognize when you actually learn (or really, unlearn) how language and narratives have been crafted against the left. You have no knowledge of this so you believe your language, which could be lifted from the mouth of a genocidal US general in the 60s (or a racist anarchist in the 30s!), is actually your own unique idea and not something you have absorbed from your context - your upbringing, your education, your social circle, and the media you are exposed to.

                  Again, you know basically nothing here. You tacitly admit it with every obvioua fib. Just be honest and ask questions instead of trying to fight when you have tied both of your own hands behind your back.

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                  When you’re in hexbear you better come heavy with materialist analysis and citations or dont come at all.

                  Your earlier mention about bias indicators should have come with a link at the very least.

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                  I’m not parroting. All words and opinions are mine.

                  You are a product of very effective propaganda, so effective you think you came up with those ideas on your own.

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                    “What propaganda?” replied the CIA agent

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              point your fucking hog, nerd

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                7h later, no nerd hog :(

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              “let’s just ignore the authoritarianism and fascism because it’s open source :3”

              How is this not making the empires argument for them?

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