• Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world
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    : cocaine, LSD, ecstasy, and magic mushrooms

    It obvious that Musk is keeping the good S tier stuff for himself and only sharing the B rank stuff with board members.

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      It’s probably because of his autism, his brain works completely differently than most people and that’s probably why people don’t understand him nor his actions or beliefs.

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          I absolutely believe he is on the spectrum, without a doubt. I also don’t get what you mean by him being cruel? Like how?? I’m like (no joke) honestly baffled.

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        He has never been officially diagnosed with autism. He just claims he has Asperger’s (no longer an official diagnosis) and uses it as an excuse to do horrible things.

        And autism does not excuse the horrible things he says and does.

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          Too be fair, as a person on the spectrum with very good track record of recognizing other neurodivergents on the spot.

          Elon absolutely reads and acts as a neurodivergent and within that group mostly resembles autism.

          Having said that, to wield that like an excuse his vile and idiotic behavior is simply wrong.

          Everyone on the spectrum is unique, has some great gifts and some deeper flaws. I bet there are intelligent stuff hes good at but i dont believe for second he has what it takes to be a leader of any kind. He’d probably be better suited as an valued assistant to a real expert that knows what task/responsibilities to give and not give to him.

          When i look at musk i see a broken person sick with Addiction of money and power.

          The majority of autists are very progressives we have huge ties to the roots of the lgbt movement. Many of us have an inherent desire for fairness and equality. But Elon Musk has gone so deep in the rabbithole of finding survival within egocentrism he is beyond saving, no longer having the ability to see the world around it as it is.

          Ketamine is psychedelic, those tend to aid the mind into seeing their own flaws and become the better version of themselves. I find it really telling that it does not seem to work on Elon and almost proof that he is actively focused about not coming to terms with reality and refusing to work on hisself. Possibly because he scared shitless that he might feel a guilt from his conscience if he does. Easier to just pay your problems away and hope the atheist are right.

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          What horrible things?

          Also, he has SO many Asperger’s traits I knew he had it even before he said it. While Asperger’s is not an official diagnosis anymore - it’s still a part of the autism spectrum, on the high functioning side.

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            No, it’s not on the autism spectrum because it isn’t a thing. It isn’t real.

            And unless you have some medical expertise in the area, you deciding he has autism based on traits you think autistic people have is just bigoted against people with autism. Because that is not in any way in your wheelhouse.

            Do you also decide on whether or not someone is gay based on ‘gay traits?’

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              It’s not real???
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome

              I think I’m on the autistic spectrum tho not officially diagnosed.

              Do you also decide on whether or not someone is gay based on ‘gay traits?’
              Actually yes. If you feel attracted to same sex people - I think it’s fairly safe to assume you are gay or bisexual.

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                No. Not real. It is no longer a diagnosis. That means it is not real. Your link even says it “formerly described” a disorder. Do you know what “formerly” means?

                And your self-diagnosis is also meaningless. Even psychiatrists do not self-diagnose.

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                  You are absolutely wrong it’s 100% real it just got merged into the ASD (Autism spectrum disorder). Please do research.

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                  that is not what that means and the word “formerly” has nothing to do with it and you’re kinda being an asshole

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                If you read it, it’s about Elon saying that it is true that Jews oppress white people. (Jews are white, FYI.)

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                  I know Jewish people are white, lmao. I actually don’t know any instances of this being the case, I would need more context. Maybe is he just wrong or is wrongly extrapolating something to all Jewish people, but ngl, I was expecting something worse when you said he does horrible stuff. Also, fun fact, there is not a single person who is perfect and I never said Elon is. But I do think (like actually believe) he’s more good than bad. And I often feel like a lot of people think he’s more bad than good for some reason.

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        I don’t think we need to tarnish autistic people with whatever the fuck is going on in Elon’s oddly shaped head.

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          Autism is a spectrum. And you quite obviously don’t understand Elon nor his long term goals and motivations. You proved my point. I’m actually really curious why a lot of people can not see what Elon wants and what his deal is.

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              What does this have to do with sociopathy? And yes, I believe just about every mental disorder is a spectrum. (Mostly talking about the spectrum of severity here)

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            He’s a thin-skinned, narcissistic shyster who’s only goal for humanity is to line his pockets.

            What is there to understand?

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              Wait? Do you like actually believe he doesn’t care about humanity and getting to mars and lowering the chances of human extinction and advancing technology to make our lives better and finding out the secrets of the universe and he’s just doing this for money? Do you really think he is motivated by MONEY? Cmon, bruh.

              I think you REALLY REALLY do not understand what his deal is. Like, I have a feeling you can’t even imagine what he’s thinking about.

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                  Do you think getting it’s possible getting rich is not his ultimate goal, but a secondary one?

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                I think we’re done here.

                “Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”

                ― George Bernard Shaw

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                  If you feel dirty, sorry. I do, however genuinely believe you and a lot of other people do not fully understand Elon and his motivations and thought process (if at all).

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    Surprised no one mentioned Wolf of Wall Street here yet, where McConaughey’s character is like “How the fuck else are you suppose to do this job?”. Not that its defensible, but to highlight the ethical bankruptcy of all those characters with the “step on whoever, stab whoever” results oriented approach with no moral or legal consideration.

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    Elon should not force anyone to use drugs if they don’t want to. I like the fact he uses some of the drugs tho, since they can really help in certain aspects.

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        Coke is the only drug on that list I think is more bad than good. I guess it can make you productive and work fast and make time fly away. BUT. Coke makes people act like assholes and inflates their ego. Also can overdose easily and is cardio toxic. I tried oral methylphenidate in medical doses (Ritalin, Concerta) which is like cocaine essentially and I hate them. They make me not enjoy playing videogames and they just make me feel like a jittery robot that does stuff and make me sweat and I don’t like the comedown. I’d honestly put them in like C tier or even lower (for me).

        UPDATE: Elon also said he doesn’t like them, btw. On multiple occasions. He said it makes people rude, egotistical and assholes, or something along those lines.

        • TypicalHog@lemm.ee
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          Why do people keep disliking my comments. Can you point to one factually incorrect thing I said in this comment?

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      Wow, so many dislikes.

      Ok, fine - drugs don’t help in any aspects and I shouldn’t like the fact he used some of the drugs. Jeez

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    An image of Lenny from "The Simpsons" kissing a box of Special K, itself a joke to the fact that Elon Musk likes to use Ketamine, commonly called "Special K" on the street.

    alt text/explaining the joke to the blind: An image of Lenny from "The Simpsons" kissing a box of Special K, itself a joke to the fact that Elon Musk likes to use Ketamine, commonly called "Special K" on the street.

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    Damn, execs are required to do drugs and Elon still can’t keep his team together. Dude can’t even nepotism right.

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          Doesn’t make much sense to me, the way you used it. An example of nepotism might be if you gave your drug dealer a job instead of other candidates just because he is your drug dealer. Doing drugs with employees isn’t necessarily nepotism.

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    Irrelevant comment, but I wish that psychedelics were not classified by people as drugs. There is little in common in impact to your health and to your “high” between traditional drugs like cocaine and opioids and psychedelics.

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      Why wouldn’t they be drugs? The word drug in itself is not negative. Seems to me they are very obviously drugs.

      • They mean, they shouldn’t be scheduled. Regulated, like tobacco and alcohol, but not scheduled.

        Caffeine, chocolate, heck aspirine, acetamenaphine, and countless other drugs aren’t even regulated. But it’s clear what they’re trying to say: many scheduld drugs shouldn’t be illegal to produce or use.

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      I mean, they not only change things in your body and meet the definition of a drug. But make far more of a change in your body than say Tylenol, ibuprofen, or nicotine. They impare your judgment more than weed or alcohol. Maybe less long term effects than alcohol, as long as you don’t kill someone in the process since you perception of reality is impared. It makes perfect sense that it is considered a drug. Now, whether they want to legalize it with stipulations to keep people around you safe (i.e., regulate the drug) is a different discussion.

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        I think it’s person to person and dose dependent. I can’t walk after even delta 8. Unless I take enough acid to become one with the world, I’m fine. I enjoy life a little more at most.

        I don’t give a shit about regulation, but being able to buy some of these chemicals in the open would be so much safer.

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        I really doubt that, they already don’t see their workforce as people, imagine the hellscape they’d create with even more unhinged visions.

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        LSD does not form crystals in your brain or anywhere else in your body. That’s some nonsense they made up to scare kids in the 60’s.

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          My partner knows someone it happened to. The guy ended up in the hospital for weeks because he was constantly tripping. I also tried to google it, and I found several reddit threads of people complaining about trips that weren’t ending like they’re supposed to.

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            It’s not forming crystals in your brain…

            Some people with a relatively unstable psychology and/or who don’t follow the “set and setting,” could experience a bad trip which can trigger an episode of predisposed psychosis. More often than not, this can easily be prevented by having a competent sitter guiding you and not going full out with a heroic (max-effect) dose your first time.

            Think of it like learning to drive, you wouldn’t hop into a sports car solo, and expect not to have a good chance of screwing something up

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            The guy ended up in the hospital for weeks because he was constantly tripping.

            More than likely they were dosed with something other than lsd, or they had a psychotic episode brought on by LSD. There are designer drugs out there that people sell as LSD, that have a much longer active time.

            LSD does hang around in the brain longer than one would initially believe based on dosage, but it’s recently been proven that the lysergic acid gets temporarily trapped in serotonin receptors.

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            Whatever happened to the person your partner knows, it was not LSD forming crystals in their brain. That’s not a thing.

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              I don’t know what happened to him. I just know it happened. Maybe it’s not crystals forming in the brain, but that does happen, which was the point of my comment.

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                The point was lost when you started repeating someone else’s made up bullshit about LSD, repeatedly, like it was factual.

                Be open to change rather than closed minded and too arrogant to just admit you were wrong.

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                  I did say maybe it wasn’t crystals, but a guy did spend a bunch of time in the hospital, that happened. And it’s not a random person, it’s my partner who told me this, not some random person. I did concede that it may not be crystals, literally said that. But he did spend a bunch of time in the hospital, that is a fact. Don’t know why people would keep telling me I’m wrong about someone spending time in the hospital.

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                its not possible. what is possible is getting hallucinogen perception persistance disorder, what i have from abusing far too much lsd in my early 20s.

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                This can’t possibly be a real person.

                This sentence is so poorly constructed and contradictory that it seems like it was written by a bottom of the barrel LLM.

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                I just know it happened. Maybe it’s not crystals forming in the brain, but that does happen, which was the point of my comment.

                For something that totally happens, Google is completely unaware of it. Why can’t you just accept you’re wrong? Sounds like you confused what you heard.

                LSD is one of the most potent, mood-changing chemicals. It is manufactured from lysergic acid, which is found in the ergot fungus that grows on rye and other grains. It is produced in crystal form in illegal laboratories, mainly in the United States. These crystals are converted to a liquid for distribution.

                Created as a crystal, not crystals in the brain, seems like the most likely explanation.

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      i have hallucinogen perception persistance disorder, basically means im permanantly tripping from abusing lsd in my early 20s. shit can be dangerous, punching holes in my brain aye

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        Did not know that was a thing, did some reading on it. How distracting is it for you? Do you have “bad” or “good” micro trips?

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          its very mild trippy visuals, usually when i look at the blue sky or a white wall. it has inconvenient moments like while driving but overall its no big deal. definately no bad mircrotrips. just a constant reminder not to abuse drugs

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      LOL WUT? A drug is everything that changes your psyche in any way in my book. Heroin, Alcohol, LSD, Weed, Paracetamol, Caffeine, Cocaine. It’s ALL drugs!

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      There are absolutely impacts on your health though. Stuff changes your personality and sometimes, often, not for the best

      I know a lot of former friends with brain rot from our crazy days

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        I did not say that they are safe, especially if taken regularly, but they are quite different. And there is evidence that psychedelics do change people for the better too and are being investigated for things like depression treatment.