Overnight, the Russian army launched 477 drones and 60 missiles of various types, according to the Ukrainian air force; 249 were shot down, while 226 were likely lost due to electronic jamming.
It’s been open war for the last three years. Idk if you can blame the latest salvo on Russians being extra mean during Constitution Day any more than you can blame the next Ukrainian salvo on Russians deserving a double-plus bombing on Lenin’s birthday or whenever.
Every proposal for a peace plan gets flattened with a media barrage of “They’re inhuman monsters who are incapable of peace and all deserve to be exterminated!” So until the two countries can get past that (or one/both finally collapse - which I’ve been told will happen very shortly, continuously for the last three years) we’re going to continue to see new records set in the number of atrocities committed into the foreseeable future.
In January 2024, Putin again made statements which suggested, according to the Institute for the Study of War, that his “maximalist objectives in Ukraine” remained unchanged, “which are tantamount to full Ukrainian and Western surrender”. He again called for the overthrow of the Ukrainian government.
It’s not that I didn’t know any of these, it’s just that you just provided sources that debunk your own arguments.
Just few weeks ago Putin said in a speech (rough translation):
Russia is where Russian soldiers foot stepped.
Which is like, one of most fascist things I’ve ever heard. I’ll even provide Russian source:
I think your implication that a strike on Russian oil infrastructure that kills a civilian working there is equivalent to a strike on a Ukrainian apartment building is wack.
You heard other people say that, not me. Go respond to other people who are saying that instead of responding to someone who is NOT saying that (me).
What is your argument here? Honestly I’m confused about what your stance is. How far do you extend this moral equivalency? A strong case can be made that Russia’s oil industry is a vital part of its war machine, but I don’t think you could say the same about a Ukrainian coffee shop. Is it just as bad to kill a child by bombing a school as it is to kill an adult by bombing a weapons manufacturing facility?
From my perspective Ukrainian strikes are carried out in self defense against military related targets, while Russian strikes are often purposefully hitting targets not related to the military.
No, Ukraine did not have any great “score” earlier as with operation “Spiderweb” to “provoke” such attack.
It was just our Constitution Day yesterday. Just so people here understand what Russians mean by “root causes of conflict”.
It’s been open war for the last three years. Idk if you can blame the latest salvo on Russians being extra mean during Constitution Day any more than you can blame the next Ukrainian salvo on Russians deserving a double-plus bombing on Lenin’s birthday or whenever.
Every proposal for a peace plan gets flattened with a media barrage of “They’re inhuman monsters who are incapable of peace and all deserve to be exterminated!” So until the two countries can get past that (or one/both finally collapse - which I’ve been told will happen very shortly, continuously for the last three years) we’re going to continue to see new records set in the number of atrocities committed into the foreseeable future.
Can you elaborate on Ukrainian salvos please? And also - on Russian peace proposals too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_in_Russia_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
Did you read these articles yourself?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_in_Russia_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_negotiations_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
It’s not that I didn’t know any of these, it’s just that you just provided sources that debunk your own arguments.
Just few weeks ago Putin said in a speech (rough translation):
Which is like, one of most fascist things I’ve ever heard. I’ll even provide Russian source:
https://topwar.ru/266695-tam-gde-stupaet-noga-russkogo-soldata-nashe-putin-podcherknul-chto-rossija-ne-trebuet-kapituljacii-ukrainy.html
Not to mention Russian denial of the very existence of Ukrainian identity and statehood, which he also did in that same speech.
Man, just read these sources, because you’re repeating Taco Don’s rhetoric about “kids fighting in a sandbox”.
I guess it’s cool to kill civilians when they’re roughnecks?
Strange that you would pretend ignorance up front
I think your implication that a strike on Russian oil infrastructure that kills a civilian working there is equivalent to a strike on a Ukrainian apartment building is wack.
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I’ve heard Americans say the same about Middle Eastern casualties weighed against Israelis.
Certain people’s lives simply don’t matter.
You heard other people say that, not me. Go respond to other people who are saying that instead of responding to someone who is NOT saying that (me).
What is your argument here? Honestly I’m confused about what your stance is. How far do you extend this moral equivalency? A strong case can be made that Russia’s oil industry is a vital part of its war machine, but I don’t think you could say the same about a Ukrainian coffee shop. Is it just as bad to kill a child by bombing a school as it is to kill an adult by bombing a weapons manufacturing facility?
From my perspective Ukrainian strikes are carried out in self defense against military related targets, while Russian strikes are often purposefully hitting targets not related to the military.
You can learn more about Russian strikes on Ukrainian civilians here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_civilians_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine