• Taster_Of_Treats [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    What would that wheat field grow, like two loaves of bread?

    Quick maffs, 1 acre can produce 2.3 tons of wheat per growing year. The image looks like about one-sixteenth of the acre is dedicated to grain. That divides out to 140 kg of wheat per year. Maybe you lose 10% of the mass from suboptimal grinding to flour, that’s 126 kg of flour per year. 400g of flour per loaf of bread means you could make 315 loaves from 1/16 of a square acre.

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        I mean thats still a hell of a lot actually? Not sure what your points are here but i go through a loaf of bread in a week, sometimes two if i havent eaten a lot and stick it in the fridge for toast. So even if you have a family of 4 (or 6) thats still plenty? Obviously a lot of labor involved but in terms of growing capacity it seems plentiful.

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    I’ve never in my life met a chud who willingly lived in this small of a house. assuming there’s nothing above the garage its a total footprint of 20x30 feet, significantly less than 600sqft interior. This is the kind of house chuds try to split into two dogshit studio apartments and rent out for a profit.

    you can’t raise an evangelical-sized family in that size house built to american standards. If its two stories its pretty modest, if its one its tiny tiny.

    Not to mention the hilariously small animal pens and crop fields

    You can supplement your food intake with a garden but you aren’t going to be self sufficient on 1 acre lmao, and your garden isn’t going to have the same yield as a farm field, and those animals are going to just die or be miserable and you’re going to be utterly dependent on wherever you buy their feed from

  • LaughingLion [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    I’m a city dweller now but I have family who grow food, raise chickens and such and grew up near pastures with cattle and horses. The amount space for grazing you need for livestock is a ton! There are plenty of places where it makes sense. Rocky terrain with poor soil conditions can be great for goats and sheep. Other areas poor for growing can be good for other livestock like cattle and cattle can be good for natural fertilizer and so on. Point is there are tons of ways to have a homestead where you raise and grow your own food but of all the ways, this isn’t it. It’s not just bad: it flat out is non-functional. This person not only has never raised livestock in their life but has never even been around it. They didn’t even do a basic google on it. They didn’t even fucking do the current lazy shit and just ask AI.

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    The mechanism of animal husbandry in pre-industrial society was usually to extract value out of undeveloped land and/or store value for times of scarcity. It required large ratios of land per human in order to passively extract value through grazing.

    This image is fetishism.

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    I’ve probably been a little too forward over the years about personal details like this but I grew up on a “x farm” (non animal product) and in the summers as a kid I worked on a ranch with a bunch of miscellaneous farm animals doing all kinda bullshit with buckets and bailing wire and all the fun stuff. The amount of land it requires is so much more than these fucking hobbyist dipshits think.

    The lady I worked for basically ran a retirement home for old work animals. Old horses and cows too old for work but they’re fine animals and she had a big heart. It’s so much work tending animals that you don’t have to harness up and do shit with. They’re big! They eat all fuckin day! It’s all they do! Except the horses. They sometimes stare at you like side-eye-1 but just one eye because they have to look sideways to stare because their enormous banana heads.

    Anyways, fuck these idiots, swear to christ chuds going all “pol pot year zero but with homesteading” is going to get shitloads of people killed if it ever came to pass because they’ll collapse the entire food system from the ground up. Don’t ever let these idiots be in charge of the food production.

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    you can’t fit all that into an acre in sufficient quantity for anything approaching self-sufficiency
    for one, to avoid overgrazing the rule of thumb is 1 acre per cow, not like 1/16th an acre per pair
    and that amount of grain is like a few dozen loaves of bread per harvest
    actual subsistence farming is not possible with that much wasted space
    tbh you would need at least 10 times that to be properly self suffiient

  • I know nothing about farming, but if you wanted to be as close to self sufficient as possible on 1 acre (which I’m assuming isn’t possible — especially in the winter), would you just do 2/3rds vegetable garden and 1/3rd grain and a small space for a house and equipment shed?

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      Fill it entirely with bamboo, subsist off of that like a panda. Hell, we got a volcel pledge going too, why not subsist off of a grass that really, really doesn’t want to be eaten?

    • frogbellyratbone_ [e/em/eir, any]@hexbear.net
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      if all you have is 1 acre. and it’s you and only you and you’re not going to rely on community / trade

      your entire acre will be potatoes and you’ll pray nightly they don’t get blight

    • EstraDoll [she/her, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      if you do it right, you could take a chunk out of your grocery bill after paying maybe twice that in equipment to set it up, but yeah, in terms of self sufficiency you’d probably be best ditching the animals all together. Maybe a bee hive or one pig might be plausible but those should be afterthoughts for you