I’m a city dweller now but I have family who grow food, raise chickens and such and grew up near pastures with cattle and horses. The amount space for grazing you need for livestock is a ton! There are plenty of places where it makes sense. Rocky terrain with poor soil conditions can be great for goats and sheep. Other areas poor for growing can be good for other livestock like cattle and cattle can be good for natural fertilizer and so on. Point is there are tons of ways to have a homestead where you raise and grow your own food but of all the ways, this isn’t it. It’s not just bad: it flat out is non-functional. This person not only has never raised livestock in their life but has never even been around it. They didn’t even do a basic google on it. They didn’t even fucking do the current lazy shit and just ask AI.
I’m not too good for star wars slop but “this is the way” is a phrase that irritates me and makes me hate whoever typed it.
And the moral of the story was that they had to compromise “the way” anyway.
libs pretty much every time:
Yeah that shit is a whole ass redditism now
This.
Fucking Stardew Valley looking-ass shit
Farmville Homestarved
Imagine having a fucking lawn when you only have 1 acre to grow food lol
Yeah, what’s the point of having a lawn in the backyard when they would presumably have a lawn in the frontyard already? Are they so lawn-brained that they still need two lawns lol
hey weeding gardens and managing orchards, tending livestock, chickens, bees, it really doesn’t take up any time, so you’re gonna want to add 1-4 hours of mowing per week just to keep busy
saw [LAWN] and I was immediately able to diagnose the twitter user as suffering from terminal americabrain
Also really digging the windbreak hedgerow that only does that for about 50ft and from one direction
That got me too. Peasants could’ve been grilling and slip-sliding on all the church holidays, what were they thinking using ALL their land for “crops”???
Grain, famous for it’s per-acre productivity
(wait, isn’t grain super productive per acre or am i missing something here)
It comes down to economies of scale.
In the US grains like corn and wheat go for about $4.25-$5.25 per pound.
One acre of land can produce about 2.3 tons (48,000 pounds) of wheat.
So being generous, lets say you could make $240,000 per acre.
Now you have to factor in the costs to grow, harvest, process, store, and ship that. Along with that you need to equipment to do all of this.
Ultimately, a large farm might spend more initially for bigger equipment, there going to beat out smaller farms by shear volume.
In the US grains like corn and wheat go for about $4.25-$5.25 per pound.
oh, i see. I was thinking kCal/acre instead of cash value/acre, assuming you were eating this instead of selling it
Even if you were, you’d still need alot more than a small portion of one acre of you were trying to grow enough to eat throughout the year.
In calories produced/(year * acre), stuff like potatoes are way more productive than wheat or sunflower or soy
It is not very efficient per acre, but it is very efficient in term of labour required and much more amenable to mechanised farming compared to potatoes.
Cereals with the exceptions of corn and quinoa aren’t really worth it on a hobby farm, which anything under an acre certainly is. Oats, wheat, rye ect are all a pain to harvest and process. Growing corn you can do three sisters and really produce a ton of food per square meter. Quinoa grows kinda bushy but you can stick it anywhere and when it’s ready to harvest all you have to do is shake it.
Wild rice gets an honorable mention if you’ve got the right spot for it as it essential self seeds needs vary little care and you really have to do is smack it with stick into tarp to harvest it.
Economies of scale? Never met 'em.
tag yourself, I’m “small fruits”
I’m the duck that’s nearly the size of a calf
Damn, like 30% of it is green desert. Not a botanical garden or water retention or pollinator garden with a path through it or even just rotating livestock forage, but the most boring and unproductive thing they can imagine. I visited the 1/2 acre~ home of a horticulturist recently and he had an entire forest growing between three ecosystems, at least a hundred species of plants. When I can finally afford a homestead similar to this, I could squeeze like 4x the metabolism out of this space.
It’s 4 (admittedly extremely emaciated cows[or maybe rats?]), how much land could they possibly need, 10,000 sqft?World’s first battery farmed beef.
This is like if people who re into cottage core thought about what a homestead would look like, without doing any actual homesteading.
I’ve done it. I mean, worked a farm. Worked cattle, and a half acre vegetable garden, chickens and pigs. It’s not for the faint of heart. It isn’t for redditors and people who post on twitter.
That’s not enough room for ANY of that. That veggie garden will provide for a few months at best, in optimal conditions. Less so if you’re growing multiple seasons. The fruit trees take YEARS to produce anything worth harvesting. It takes more than two trees of a few varieties, which are in season at different times of the year. There’s so much about this that doesn’t work.
Fucking larpers man. Are they gonna post about it when none of that works?
I put a bunch of fruit trees in last year. I’ve gotten nothing from them, I’ll continue to get nothing from them for the next few years if I can keep them alive, between weather and animals that just love the taste of young fruit trees.
Even with perfect luck that kind of a layout is a recipe for starvation.
Right. There’s just so much that has to happen flawlessly to get the yields this guy expects from fruit trees.
In the meantime there’s all sorts of blights, and rots, and fungus’ and infections and cankers, and on, and on, and on. Deer? Birds? Worms?
Multiple varieties with different soil needs, and nutrient needs, and watering needs. And some fruits are only good for one thing, like canning or baking, etc. so you’re only ever gonna have canned pears, or apple pies because the fruit is too sour otherwise…
Ugh, tell me about it with the sour fruits. I love cherries. My climate is far too cold to keep any sweet varieties alive. I’ve talked to multiple local master gardners and nobody has any advice other than “well, you could try to set up a microclimate that will keep it alive through the winter, but that’s pretty tough.”
yeah i was about to say it looks like a nice hobbyist project that would take a lot of effort, but at best that’s going to be a supplement to your total food income and you’re still going to be buying 80% of your groceries at best. Not that it doesn’t make it worth it as a hobby but come on man, you can’t subsist one person off that
yeah for real. Lot of land and a lot of hands to work that land, to make enough to subsist on.
This man’s wife and children would be dead, his lands would be fallow and his livestock would all be dead from plague. It’s a milder version of the ‘I could beat a bear in a fight’ scenario.
Sit the fuck down city boy.
If we disregard the comically small pastures which would probably be animal abuse, this is just a large vegetable garden, which is a nice thing to have and not the worst hobby you could be into. It has nothing to do with self-suffucience though.
Yeoman dream.
Ah yes, the classic 1 acre with a cow, a calf, two pigs, a duck pond and a chicken coop.
Does the artist know how much a cow eats? That ducks can fly? Who cares, vibes vibes vibes!
A lot else is wrong with this, but good luck feeding just one cow off of 1 acre of ANYTHING.
Drop the livestock (minus the chicken) and the grains; expand that vegetable garden, and you can have a nice hobby that gives you some nice fresh food to supplement going to the store throughout part of the year.
Indeed, that seems more realistic.
The greenhouse needs to be like, four times as big and it could be twice as productive as the rest of the space they’ve planned out
good luck feeding just one cow off of 1 acre of ANYTHING
Even a just a couple of goats at a fraction the size of a cow will easily strip an acre over the course of a season and as soon winter hits they’re going through like 50lbs of feed a month.
Yep. And Goats are cool so you should have them over cows.
pol pot ass attention to detail from the half-assed anprim hoggers
This is Manifest Destiny/Lebensraum shit lmao
This person built their ideology after playing Stardew Valley
And they totally went the Joja route on their first playthrough, and not from a “People’s Republic of Walmart”-justification standpoint.
The way the crops are split is looking like how I set up my Rimworld colonies to minimise blight spread.
I’ve also had good results growing them close together but enveloping each crop in an onion membrane
Are onions from a mod? I can’t remember them being in vanilla Rimworld.
