• nonailsleft@lemm.ee
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    12 days ago

    If my life expectancy drops I don’t think it’s going to suddenlyb make me stick my dong into a 9 year old

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      12 days ago

      Presentism is the fallacy you are looking for.

      Humans have even changed their bodies since the middle ages. Menstrual periods are later. Maturity goes slower. People don’t die in 30 years.

      Children having their parents die when they are 10 and get married at 20. Or children getting married at 10 and having their parents die at 20. All great choices which we don’t have to make and can moral high ground about.

      I could ask why you think dating an 18 year old is fine but a 17 year old is not. Because modern research suggests the brain only finishes development at 25. But of course our sense of “morals” is solely based on arbitrary laws in < present time > in < present location >.

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        12 days ago

        Ah, the Great Cascade of excusing pedophilia

        It didn’t happen

        Her age was ‘unclear’

        Her 9-year-old body was ‘ready for it’ <-- You are here

        He had to plow her, as her parents could die any day <-- Moving here

        Why would there be a problem with a 50-year old ‘dating’ a 9-year old <-- Nice to see that thrown in

        She loved him

        She was begging for it

        Furthermore, your excuses just confirm Sunzu’s allegation that ‘modern’ Muslims have not ‘moved on’ from these practices - they use them to excuse legalizing and enabling pedophilia today. Muhammad set the bar for them. And he set it very, very low.

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          You striped away points never mentioned and did not answer the question about the age of 25.

          100 years ago the age of consent in Delaware was 7 years old. Your argument has been a non issue for the entire history of humanity until last 100 year until your magic universal definition of a chil turning adult at 18 took place.

          And let’s not forget the age of consent being 12 in many American places up to recently.

          But nonetheless nobody takes this dumb moral highgrounding serious as the secular west is currently committing a Genocide on mostly children in a concentration camp in Gaza. But those are of course not children they are “terrorists” who are allowed to be killed.

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        11 days ago

        Muslims do not generally believe in cultural or moral relativism. Allah is the one true God, his moral teachings are objectively correct. Why offer them a way out that they themselves aren’t able to coherently accept?

        Besides, cultural relativism is nonsense. If someone tells me it’s okay to molest children, their perspective is not “just as valid” as mine. They’re a monster.

        Yes, this means a lot of people in the past, and today, are monsters. That’s extremely plausible.

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          11 days ago

          Not sure why in 2024 we still making excuses for pedohiles…

          Christian clergy notorious pedos, nothing is done…

          Other cultures bending out of shape to explain away their own pedophiles as this thread shows…

          I am assume these are adult people and likely men. Are they pathetic or are they just pushing pedophilia?

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          11 days ago

          Society committing Genocide on children and calling them terrorists suddenly are very worried about when a girl of menstrual age willingly gets married.

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            11 days ago

            Bro this melt down… stop.

            1. Calling 10yo a girl mestrual age is really stretching what that means. Stop digging your own hole. You really need to consider what you are really saying here. The optics are beyond bad. I hope you really don’t think that.

            2. This has nothing to with the Israel’s ethnic cleansing campaign in Gaza. Pretty sure most people can agree that Mohammed was a pedo and Israel is a committing war crimes.

            Frankly you mixing the two together is not appreciated.

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              11 days ago

              Who is having a meltdown, you?

              If she had a menstruation she was of menstrual age. And if she then willingly got married that’s her own decision.

              You were bringing up moral “evolution”.

              Simply pointing out that a society electing leaders knowing they will commit Genocide on little babies does not appear morally evolved really hits a nerve.

              Would you suggest I refer to all Americans as “baby murderers”?

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                11 days ago

                Age is just a number… Prison is just a place.

                I am assumining you would let 50yo geatric clown fuck your child at 10?

                Obviously as long as she consents!