Also it turns out the wanting to fuck horses thing wasn’t just a bit.

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    Vaush is creepy. I don’t think he’s a specific pedophile, just so porn-addled and coomerbrained that his filter for acceptable discourse has been ground down to nothing. Anyone who keeps a porn folder probably falls into the same category.

    Basically, someone I wouldn’t trust my kids around either way.

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      I don’t think he’s a specific pedophile, just so porn-addled and coomerbrained that his filter for acceptable discourse has been ground down to nothing.

      What do you mean by this?

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        I think they’re saying he’s been so desensitized that literally anything goes, instead of specifically being a pedo.

        However I think he’s just a pedo and a likely animal abuser. And we know he’s a chaser too for whatever that’s worth

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            You’re not wrong there. Engaging in pedophile behavior is probably better described as just being a pedophile. I just made that comment because I thought it was a pretty common thing to come across online. The guy who is a pedo, but also happens to be into bestiality, or guro, or some range of noncon, or every single other hentai genre under the sun. Leaves a strong impression.

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      Someone found one of the images he had saved and it’s

      CW: real gross paedo beastiality shit

      Hentai of a crying child being penetrated by a horse

      Like this isn’t just regular porn addict brain, it’s “I understand there’s no actual victim because it’s a drawing and yet the artist should still face life in prison” shit.

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    I wonder if he’ll double down on the “it’s just a joke”, like

    It was just a prank to make y’all think I have child porn on my PC

    It was just a prank that I got arrested for having child porn on my PC

    It’ll be one of the few times I’ll thank cops for their good work.

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        From the comments in the video, it seems one of the pictures is some AI generated thing, where one of the persons looks like a minor.

        There’s a whole discussion on the legality of AI-generated child porn (and even of drawn child porn in general) that I’m not willing to learn much about, but AFAIK it’s a bit of a “it’s up in the air, the courts decide, depends on the country” situation.

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      I would be shocked if he got arrested for 2d porn, even of the underage variety. But regardless, fans in the Vaush subreddit are already doing damage control along these lines, assuming/asserting that this is a joke or a bit. And there’s no way it’s a joke. If it is, he has an extremely malformed sense of humor and doesn’t mind being the butt of the “joke.”

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      Do you eat meat or condone people betting on horses? You know, actions that actually cause real suffering to real animals? Are you equally outraged abut that? Do you want those things banned, to protect the animals you claim to care so much about? Surely harm done to real victims is worse than harm done to fictional characters, right?

      Oh my god they’re trying to turn it into a vegan struggle session by comparing it to people betting on race horses

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        “If you’re not vegan, then you must approve horse porn.” These are the wise thinkers that redditors look to for political guidance.

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      Now there’s even more proof than even an admission. Several images in his CSAM/ASAM (is using ASAM to refer to animal sexual abuse materials a thing?) desktop folder were visible for some time during one of his streams.

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        Yeah I believe so. The Vaush subreddit was clambering to delete all conversations about it lol

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      I just never found it interesting, but it’s insane people actually become attracted to such inhuman animations.

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      Isn’t it all fucking Loli shit? I never got it. I might be older than the average here but I think it’s some weird shit that’s been normalised for younger people. Yes, all Anime!

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        The highest grossing and most watched anime in any given year are probably that year’s release of Pokemon, Detective Conan or Ghibli movie so I think your perception is warped by the filter of Westoid anime fans who hyperfixate on the kind of anime that can only air after midnight on Japanese broadcast TV.

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          Pokemon is anime now? Anyway another mystifying pile of shite. Never understood it.

          I never heard of Detective Conan but it’s apparently a minuscule little 4 year old girl dressed in a suit and shorts? This is not helping any cases here. This is children’s programming, I mean for very young children.

          Ghibli Never hear of either but I’m thinking that the definition of Anime is not just “any cartoon that is made in Asia.”

          I just bought an expensive keyboard. Not a children’s toy, a serious mechanical keyboard for adults. It came with this set of stickers. Sexualised children with impossibly enormous tits. How is this normal? This is not “after midnight on Japanese broadcast TV.”

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                what does that mean?

                In case it was unclear, Im making fun of you for stuff like this

                I just bought an expensive keyboard. Not a children’s toy, a serious mechanical keyboard for adults.

                and not knowing what chibi artstyle is, thinking that those stickers are supposed to be children and getting big mad about that, as opposed to any of the real issues with anime and Japanese pop culture

                not defending japans fucked up pedo shit, if thats what your comment is supposed to imply

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            No, Detective Conan isn’t a “miniscule little 4 year old girl”, the main characters name is literally Jimmy. He’s a detective that got shrunk.

            Also, none of the chibi versions of that girl have any tits, just the one that is obviously an adult. Chibi is generally used for over-exaggerated emotions or comedic relief, just look at RWBY Chibi or even Disney Chibiverse.

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            “Anime” as the Japanese understand and use it is any sort of animated media. Pokemon is anime, SpongeBob is Anime, Pixar is digital anime. As most English speakers use the term, it’s just any animation made in Japan (or sometimes in the Japanese style).

            I never heard of Detective Conan but it’s apparently a minuscule little 4 year old girl dressed in a suit and shorts? This is not helping any cases here.

            Conan is a boy and what exactly is the sexualization here? He’s wearing shorts? I hate to break it to you but if you see a drawing of a young boy wearing shorts and think sexual thoughts about it then that says something about you, not the drawing or boys or shorts.

            I mean look, I’m not saying that there isn’t a problem with sexualizing minors in anime, but it’s not really fair to tar an art from because some people use it to depict questionable things. America seems to put out a shit load of live action incest porn but it doesn’t make sense to lump all American live action media in with the sister fucking porn, right?

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              “Anime” as the Japanese understand and use it is any sort of animated media. Pokemon is anime, SpongeBob is Anime, Pixar is digital anime.

              Only if you’re Japanese, by your own definition. Nobody else would call Spongebob anime, come on now. Why are so many here so over the top freaked out by criticism of sexualised cartoons of children?

              Conan is a boy and what exactly is the sexualization here?

              I didn’t say it was sexualised? Weird. I never even heard about it until now. Why are people on a discussion forum for adults familiar with children’s cartoons?

              if you see a drawing of a young boy wearing shorts and think sexual thoughts about it then that says something about you

              I completely agree mate. You should think about that.

              I mean look, I’m not saying that there isn’t a problem with sexualizing minors in anime

              Okay then? That’s all I’ve been saying?

              but it’s not really fair to tar an art from because some people use it to depict questionable things.

              Art form? So now it’s not all cartoons ever made, but a specific art form?

              America seems to put out a shit load of live action incest porn but it doesn’t make sense to lump all American live action media

              And now we’re flailing around with comparing porn with "all American live action media ".

              I think this says everything about your ability to honestly engage here.

              People here are obviously very triggered due to an insecurity about their liking of a specific art form that they know, very shallow down, is dodgy as fuck.

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                From your other comments here, you’re overreacting.

                Sexualized depiction of minors in anime is a HUGE issue, alongside hypersexualization of women in general too, but it’s not what the whole medium of anime is. The same way there’s a lot of bad stuff in the shonen genre (basically the category of anime whose target audience is teenage boys), there’s plenty of stuff that don’t do that, and there’s also stuff that actually criticizes that practice.

                Anime movies from Ghibli and other works like Perfect Blue, for example, don’t rely on this this type of stuff. For anime series, Wonder Egg Priority is very pro-LGBT and criticizes Japan’s issues with sexual assault, all while having a cast of only girls without sexualizing them. There’s other works too like Trigun and The Promised Neverland that, as far as I remember, don’t rely on this type of sexualization at all, and these are not small niche anime, they are well known works.

                Only if you’re Japanese, by your own definition. Nobody else would call Spongebob anime, come on now. Why are so many here so over the top freaked out by criticism of sexualised cartoons of children?

                The point of what they said is that the Japanese call every type of cartoon Anime, but everyone else in the world only calls Anime specifically the animated media that comes from Japan, or in some cases animated media that uses the same style as the Japanese, for example, Avatar: The Last Airbender sometimes being called an anime.

                Also, no one is freaking out about the criticism you’re giving, everyone agrees with you on this front, but you’re clearly uninformed enough to lump everything together as the same thing, without giving it a gram of nuance and material thought. Japan have a pretty big problem with these practices that are still unresolved, it is clearly gonna show up on some of the stuff they produce and they SHOULD be criticized for it, but this is not the type of stuff that is gonna change tomorrow, it takes time.

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                Only if you’re Japanese, by your own definition. Nobody else would call Spongebob anime, come on now. Why are so many here so over the top freaked out by criticism of sexualized cartoons of children?

                it’s a champagne vs sparkling wine situation. taking the weeaboos seriously is a mistake.

                Why are people on a discussion forum for adults familiar with children’s cartoons?

                for the same reason they’re familiar with Spongebob. some art transcends age and it can be appreciated on it’s own merits.

                People here are obviously very triggered due to an insecurity about their liking of a specific art form that they know, very shallow down, is dodgy as fuck.

                as someone with several very specific trauma triggers, please don’t do this. it’s reactionary to refer to triggers as if the term means “mildly upset”. moreover, I’ve read this thread several times, and I think you’re projecting emotions onto others, moreso than anyone else getting worked up here.

                as for myself, there’s generally more queer expression in anime than in western art so that’s what draws me to it. I feel more seen there. western depictions of queerness tend to be more pandering than what I find there, where there’s a lot more art that introspects on the queer experience. I’ve never sobbed so hard at art before seeing the ending to Revolutionary Girl Utena (because of how it mirrored an extremely specific personal experience I’m not going to share here) and that particular show is a favorite among trans women. I can’t pretend to understand why they tend to produce more of that kind of art (Japanese culture makes it fairly taboo – maybe it’s because of the taboo and the lack of corporate/public awareness about the queer subtext of these stories) but it’s hard to deny that they do.

                if you want an example of a story that isn’t merely allegorically or subtextually trans, here’s an analysis of a cartoon that’s textually and unequivocally about a trans person coming to terms with their gender, using a framing device that trans people share with each other as a thought experiment to help them decide whether or not they’re really trans. and, as it’s discussed at the end of that video, the author isn’t merely some cis person writing about the trans experience. it’s very likely that they themselves are trans and are struggling to come to grips with that fact.

                the shallow shit that panders to men is a complete non-starter for me, especially because I’m not attracted to women, so I can’t really comment on the artistic value of it.

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                  I know this is off topic from both the OP and even more from OOP, and this thread is not really a good place for this, but I’m watching Utena right now and I’m loving it. I’m only half way through, but it has been amazing so far, all the way from the silly to the serious moments.

                  I’ve never sobbed so hard at art before seeing the ending to Revolutionary Girl Utena (because of how it mirrored an extremely specific personal experience I’m not going to share here) and that particular show is a favorite among trans women.

                  I hope it ends up touching me someway too, it’s been a while since a show made me really feel something, and that’s one of the reasons I love this medium so much. I’m gonna be honest, I’ve been really questioning my gender lately and I don’t know what I am right now, but it’s great knowing trans people love Utena so much!

                  Also, I agree with your statement about queer expression on anime. I only saw a few things, but it feels very different. Though I’m still new into looking for queer representation in general.

                  Do you have any recommendations be it anime or not? I really do want to continue exploring this after I finish Utena.

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                You know how to use a search engine, right? “Anime” is literally “animation originating from Japan”. When the style is used outside of Japan it’s “Animesque”. Pokemon is a “Japanese media franchise”.

                The Japanese use the term for any animation, though, so these are mostly labels from westerners.

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                  You know how to use a search engine, right?

                  Why the petulant childishness? Are you upset your kiddie porn is being criticised?

                  Even with your sneering sarcasm you mange to give three different definitions with one of them being “literally”.

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      We have this whole culture around consuming simulated CSA material and we aren’t supposed to talk about it because ‘its just a drawing bro’

      I am genuinely repulsed by the prevalence of Loli in anime. Every anime show someone tries to get me into has a little girl character. Even if she’s not overly sexualised it skeeves me out.

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        I am going to have to ask you not to conflate Anime with CSA and CSA material. While I my self do not watch Anime, I think it is ridiculous to think anyone here would get upset about you raising concerns about CSA if it where just a photo. However, from a thread here, there is compelling reason to see that Anime is not equivalent to CSA. For example Pokemon, is considered Anime, and from what I understand is a children’s show.

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    Okay, so everything about this is bad. But him having a physical folder of these images just makes this weirder for me. I guess I cannot wrap my head around porn folders still being a thing.

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      I think V*ush might have that thing where he knows what he’s doing is wrong and he kinda wants to get caught. It would explain why he talks about it so much.