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    Any other president that cared for the American people would have offered and grieved for the Americans that got shot that day.

    No one knows about them…

    No one hears about them…

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          I thought it was 1 dead 2 injured. That’s what’s on Wikipedia.

          Corey Comperatore, the volunteer fire chief was the one who died. Was there another?

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            Wikipedia does say 2+3. (Including the shooter and Trump). Scroll up to the summery.

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              Oh, right, yeah. The question was whether others were shot. I didn’t think they were concerned about the shooter and obviously Trump wasn’t seriously hurt.

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      Biden actually reached out to the widow of the retired Fire Chief. She refused his call because her dead husband wouldn’t want her talking to Biden.

      Trump never bothered to reach out, but did hold her up as a prop at the RNC.

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      I should have made this a top-level comment:

      TL;DR: he wasn’t banned, he quit:

      Source (Instagram)

      On Saturday, I was perplexed by photos online of Trump boarding his plane en route to a bitcoin conference. There was no bandage on his right ear. I re-posted one of the photos on Twitter and wrote, “look closely at his ear that was ‘hit’ by a bullet from a AR-15 assault rifle.”⁣
      ⁣ “Fake news,” someone responded. “It’s the wrong ear,” said another, which of course was not true. “This is an old photo,” which I felt the need to reply to. I re-posted a screenshot of New York Times photographer Doug Mills’ Twitter post of the same situation of Trump boarding his plane, which included the date and time of his photo. Doug is one of Trump’s favorite photographers and Trump has publicly called him “my genius photographer.” So I thought the maga world would at least believe Doug Mills.⁣
      ⁣ They didn’t. The comments turned ugly. Mostly about me, but also some that disparaged Doug Mills. ⁣ ⁣ Since 2017, I’ve been accustomed to having vile and hateful comments thrown at me. But I had now exposed someone else, Doug Mills, to be the recipient of hateful messages on MY Twitter account. Not cool.⁣
      ⁣ On top of that, I’ve been at a cabin with no Internet and sporadic cell coverage for the past week, which made it difficult to post anything in the first place but also a challenge to push back against the hate.⁣
      ⁣ So I de-activated my Twitter account. It was a gut decision, made only by me. I am still not sure if this is a temporary or a permanent action.⁣
      ⁣ I was unaware that some on Twitter were a⁣ responding that Elon Musk had deleted my account. How would I know? I wasn’t able to access Twitter. I did receive a few DMs here on Instagram about this, but didn’t think much about it. ⁣ ⁣ Until…late last night, I received a text message from a New York Times reporter asking me to comment about my supposedly “being kicked off X for posting a photo of Trump’s ear.” And then this morning, I received a text message from a childhood friend who asked, in jest, “Is there a Free Pete Souza donation site?”⁣
      ⁣ It was time to respond. I have so much more I want to say about the state of social media, but for now I want to make it clear that I was not kicked off Twitter. I kicked myself off.⁣

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    Wow, so that bullet BARELY clipped him? And he has all those pictures of him trying to act heroic?

    Veterans (AKA “suckers and losers” according to Trump) must hate this guy…

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    If the government’s spending power supports something/someone that does things the government is forbidden from doing per our rights, isn’t that the same exact thing as the government violating our rights?

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    And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

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        It’s so on-the-nose that I don’t even Trump is the parody anymore, it’s evangelical Christianity that’s the real parody. A group of folks who make a story about a socialist day laborer from the Middle East and use it to justify white supremacy, unfettered capitalism, and wealth as a measure of God’s love falling in line behind a cartoonishly accurate representation the “bad guy” in their book…exactly like their book said they would.

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      Out of context it sounds like something.

      But add the lines right before and it’s more clearly fever dream gibberish of a dying old man:

      And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, and on its horns were ten diadems, and on its heads were blasphemous names. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard, its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And the dragon gave it his power and his throne and great authority.

      Did Trump come out of the sea? Does he look like a leopard with bear feet and a lion mouth?

      People have been misunderstanding and trying to extend parts of that text to contemporary events since it was written.

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        You’re right, but it’s also funny that Christianity has generally streamlined taking things out of context. I just say "Revelation 13:3 and boom, that verse is cited out of context. Endless pamphlets, posters, sermons, and so on focus on bringing some verse without context.

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        Apocalyptic literature isn’t meant to be taken literally. It’s a common mistake though, even among so-called Christians. “Mouth like a lion” could mean boastful, roaring, brave, loud, threatening, or any number of things.

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          And yet I’ve not seen anyone figure out that the locusts in Revelations was just a poetic taxonomy for the local middle eastern hornet, Vespa Orientalis, down to the golden crown on its face.

          People like to interpret those texts in all sorts of fantastical ways as long as it titillates them, but shy away from actually looking plainly at what’s being said.

          So by all means don’t take it literally. But also maybe don’t think that a text written by a syphilitic old man in antiquity is talking about the 2024 United States presidential election without a more compelling case.

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        Mar-a-lago Spanish - sea to lake

        There are 9 current trump towers. Moscow would make 10

        7 heads with blasphemous names - TRUMP on the top

        Feet of a bear -Russia is known as the bear in the west since early 20th century.

        Lion mouth - have you heard him speak? (Who hasn’t, he’s loud, boisterous, like a lion)

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      If the AR is for the AR-15, then you’re mistaken on the meaning. That doesn’t stand for assault rifle. It’s for Armalite, the original developer of the gun.

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        Armalite Rifle Assault Rifle is a bit clumsy. But people get so intensely hung up on the jargon because they’re angry the conversation is even happening.

        Guy with a locker full of guns shits the bed when his son goes on a murder spree, and then we all get an earful about how we don’t know enough about guns to understand why he was a reckless owner.

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          AR is just for Armalite, not Armalite rifle. Anyway, ywa it doesn’t matter.

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      The “AR” in “AR-15” doesn’t stand for “Assault Rifle” though. It stands for “Armalite-15”. Armalite being the company that originally developed the modular firing mechanism that we all know today. Technically speaking, the only part that is legally classified as a gun is the actual firing mechanism that Armalite developed; Everything else (like the barrel, stock, and handle) is just add-ons and accessories.

      So yeah, calling it an AR-15 assault rifle would be correct. Though there’s also the debate on what actually constitutes an “assault rifle”, as people seem to just use a “you’ll know it when you see it” rule for identifying assault rifles.

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      It’s an entirely innocuous statement. What are they supposed to say instead?

      • “15 Assault Rifle” or “Assault Rifle 15” just makes no sense.
      • “AR-15” isn’t understood by all people to mean an assault rifle, since not everyone knows gun names.
      • “Assault Rifle” doesn’t tell people which kind of assault rifle it is, since the AR in AR-15 stands for ArmaLite.

      It’s a statement that gives the most possible context to the reader about:

      • What design of assault rifle it is
      • What type of gun it is in general
      • While also allowing readers to then learn the definition of the sole term “AR-15” over time
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    Everyone needs to chill out about this ear thing. It’s amazing what can be covered with a little bit of makeup. As much as I detest the man, I can see why he wouldn’t want to walk around with a visible ear cut. Women cover zits and blemishes with makeup as a matter of course. Do you think the orange douchewipe wants the focus on his ear? All presidents (and “presidents”) have makeup up people, and their job is to cover this kind of shit up and make the person look as flawless as possible.

    Let’s leave the conspiracy theories to the conservatards.

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      It’s amazing what can be covered with a little bit of makeup.

      Because Trump is known for using a “little bit” of makeup. If he was using makeup on his ear, it would be to make it look worse, not to cover it up.

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        It’s been a long time since trump ever did his own makeup. He thinks the orange makes him look good, or maybe he even thinks it’s just his brand now. A blemished ear does not look good, even in the opinion of a man who thinks oranging his face rocks.

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          Except that he’s trying to play up the shot he took. It’s why his buddy Elon is making unpersons of people who show that his ear is fine.

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      I’d believe you if he hasn’t been over the top with his theatrics around this.

      Dude was wearing a pice of gauze the size of his ear just a week ago.

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      Do you think the orange douchewipe wants the focus on his ear?

      I mean, yeah, I kinda do. I expected him to milk the assassination attempt for all it’s worth, and I don’t think that makes me a conspiracy theorist.

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        Some campaign adviser told him that a damaged ear presents as damaged goods, and it would be better to cover it. This is a man so concerned about his looks that he spray paints his face orange. His narcissism elevates the priority of his looks beyond any perceived sympathy (sympathy being a foreign concept to him). Even his rabid base depict him in their artwork as having a six pack abs. He is absolutely covering it up. If the blood was a prop then even his dumb handlers would be smart enough to apply a fake scab to keep the ruse going.

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      Based … if it weren’t that the fact that accounts getting banned for simply alluding to it is very real. The whole drama may be bullshit, but accounts getting banned for this isn’t. It is partisan censorship inside a major social network just using the drama as an excuse.

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      Knowing how Trump has played up his assassination attempt at every opportunity… He absolutely would want to bring attention to any damage to his ear.

      I don’t really care one way or another about whatever drama is going on about his ear. I’m just saying, I don’t think he’d choose to use makeup to cover up any scars on his ear.

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    I am annoyed by folks who say “AR-15 Assault rifle” its a fucken AR-15 and im pretty sure the one used was at best in something closer to a range rifle or sharpshooter configuration. Most of what makes an assault rifle are pretty random but I feel like selective fire is a pretty important one. Aight gun rant over.

    Also I wish BARs were more common cause I feel like theyd have a good hunting community due to being .308.

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      I think it’s because non-gun people see “AR-15”, hear it being called an assault rifle, and assume the AR stands for Assault Rifle. It doesn’t, it stands for ArmaLite Rifle, but good luck breaking that association in their minds.

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        Yeah I know, I just find it real fucken annoying, its like the term assault weapon. It means nothing and is literally just a buzz word, and I really wish folks would nock it off. Learn at least a modicum about firearms before ya start yapping, I dont mind if folks want to put slight restrictions around certain weapons just dont be stupid.

        If ya think ya can create a gun completely out of 3D printed materials barrel and all. Well I have a carbon fibre submarine to sell ya.

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      “Most of what makes an assault rifle are pretty random but I feel like selective fire is a pretty important one. Aight gun rant over.”

      As someone trained in an army, it’s weird seeing American politics trying to pretend like being able to switch to full automatic is somehow a game changer, that that needs to be the line, that that is what makes a firearm properly dangerous. First off, you don’t use full auto really anywhere. You use semi-auto, double-shots, center-mass. Secondly, those “bump-stocks” are awful easy to make for the semi-autos already sold at supermarkets in the US.

      Most of what makes an assault rifle is a somewhat large magazine capacity and semi-automatic firing. Look at pretty much any conflict since a bit after WWI. What were the major advantages of the M1 Garand, for instance? It’s not a huge mag, 8-round internal box magazine, but that added with the semi-automatic firing makes it far superior to any bolt-action rifle.

      Point being if it shoots rather fast and has several bullets, you should probably have some regulations on it.

      https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-simple-truth-about-gun-control

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      Last time I saw ‘em, said something about hanging without his buddy at Boeing.

      I’m sure everything’s fine, they’re prolly just messin with planes & stuff.

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      TL;DR: he wasn’t banned, he quit:

      https://www.instagram.com/p/C-A3yZiObH6/

      On Saturday, I was perplexed by photos online of Trump boarding his plane en route to a bitcoin conference. There was no bandage on his right ear. I re-posted one of the photos on Twitter and wrote, “look closely at his ear that was ‘hit’ by a bullet from a AR-15 assault rifle.”⁣
      ⁣ “Fake news,” someone responded. “It’s the wrong ear,” said another, which of course was not true. “This is an old photo,” which I felt the need to reply to. I re-posted a screenshot of New York Times photographer Doug Mills’ Twitter post of the same situation of Trump boarding his plane, which included the date and time of his photo. Doug is one of Trump’s favorite photographers and Trump has publicly called him “my genius photographer.” So I thought the maga world would at least believe Doug Mills.⁣
      ⁣ They didn’t. The comments turned ugly. Mostly about me, but also some that disparaged Doug Mills. ⁣ ⁣ Since 2017, I’ve been accustomed to having vile and hateful comments thrown at me. But I had now exposed someone else, Doug Mills, to be the recipient of hateful messages on MY Twitter account. Not cool.⁣
      ⁣ On top of that, I’ve been at a cabin with no Internet and sporadic cell coverage for the past week, which made it difficult to post anything in the first place but also a challenge to push back against the hate.⁣
      ⁣ So I de-activated my Twitter account. It was a gut decision, made only by me. I am still not sure if this is a temporary or a permanent action.⁣
      ⁣ I was unaware that some on Twitter were a⁣ responding that Elon Musk had deleted my account. How would I know? I wasn’t able to access Twitter. I did receive a few DMs here on Instagram about this, but didn’t think much about it. ⁣ ⁣ Until…late last night, I received a text message from a New York Times reporter asking me to comment about my supposedly “being kicked off X for posting a photo of Trump’s ear.” And then this morning, I received a text message from a childhood friend who asked, in jest, “Is there a Free Pete Souza donation site?”⁣
      ⁣ It was time to respond. I have so much more I want to say about the state of social media, but for now I want to make it clear that I was not kicked off Twitter. I kicked myself off.⁣

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    Question: As this is no longer a neutral platform, what would be the legal implications? Is Twitter still a neutral carrier (or whatever the proper term is) and enjoys far-reaching legal protections for this?

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      There is no such thing as a “neutral carrier” for social media. It’s a made-up concept used to pretend that a social media site isn’t allowed to be partisan.

      There are zero legal ramifications for making Twitter as partisan as musk wants.

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        Funny how the “free speech” guy bought Twitter and made it more biased and authoritarian than it has ever been.

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              I dunno, I think it was pretty blatantly one sided. I have to assume most people who agree with the bias don’t tend to see it around them though.

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                I just remember arguing with wacko right wingers more then I liked lmao. Here we have a photographer getting banned, on old Twitter you had Alex Jones (and that took many years) or people literally throwing out casual violence who got banned.

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      What’s a “neutral platform”? On Lemmy.world you get banned if you say something bad about israel.

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          They aren’t, but this user’s life work is saying anyone they don’t approve of is supporting awful people and actions. Why they aren’t actually banned for that toxic behavior is a mystery to me. Then they have the audacity to lie so brazenly: that the thing they do all day every day is banned behavior. They’re so oppressed!

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            It really is funny how it’s always the loudest people who cry about being “censored” when people don’t agree with them or dare call them out for their shitty behaviour. Linkerbaan acts as if he doesn’t have a reputation for his behaviour, and as if we can’t look through modlogs and his posting history to see if he really is being censored or not. Which, of course, he isn’t.

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          Nah, I see people who shit on ukraine a lot, and are pretty common to see in a lot of places. They have been here for a long time now, and are still going strong. So if higher visibility accounts, that lots of people know about, do it, I am gonna have to assume you either are full of shit, or you saw accounts with the fingerprint of bot behavior getting torched, and just decided it had to be due to having a negative opinion of Ukraine. That, or you are talking about people being out-right racist, or preaching violent rhetoric about it, cause that can get you banned, but it isn’t for the reason you are making it out to be, here.

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            Yeah I realized it was a Pro-Ukraine community, not the entirety of Lemmy that’s banning people for their views on Ukraine.

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              So you went into a private community, created to support Ukraine, and you are blaming lemmy.world, that they banned you? Because I have seen plenty of Ukraine critical stuff on lemmy.world, even stuff that borders on out-right ethnic bigotry, get to stay, because the accounts aren’t really breaking rules, and don’t act like bots.

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            Nah, I see people who shit on ukraine a lot

            Sure, but I see that content regularly bombarded with take down notices, particularly when it’s a post.

            Lemmy.world is highly allergic to anything that might be construed as anti-American or pro-non-western Evil Country.

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            And yet this thread is full of users who claim the opposite experience. Guess you’re totally not lying.

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                Why would I need to say an obvious fact which fully contradicts your point? You are still here, able to lie your ass off on lemmy.world. claiming to be banned, which you clearly should be for spreading lies, but you aren’t.

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        And yet you post thousands of criticisms about Israel, exclusively, and I see that from you and others constantly. how are you circumventing the bans?

        Inb4 “you support/defend/love Israel/genocide”: no I clearly don’t, I’m just pointing out that you’re flat out lying here. Simply criticizing Israel has likely never resulted in a single ban.

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          What do you mean i have been banned from both news and worldnews for exposing Hasbara.

          Of course you post thousands of defenses of israel so you’re not banned.

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            Oh now it’s only certain communities. Before you claimed the instance banned users for any criticism of Israel. Goalposts on wheels I guess.

            So once again, maybe you could cite a single instance where I ever defended Israel. One time. All you have to do is cite one example. You won’t though, because you know that a comment where I said Biden isn’t responsible isn’t going to convince anyone.

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              Only the biggest communities lmao. Censoring anti israel news because it got too hot under their heels.

              Biden isn’t responsible for anything israel does sure dude. Biden never sent israell 2000 pound bombs to drop on schools or vetoes resolutions against israel at the UN. Anyone that claims otherwise should get banned from Lemmy.world right?

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                Deflecting and cramming words in my mouth are not examples of jackshit

                And I’m sure your bans have nothing to do with the many public examples we have of you lying.

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                  Indeed. The mods were banning anyone debunking now proven israeli lies about rape on oct7.

                  In classic Hasbara fashion you turn yourself into the victim while spouting all the lies you can think up.

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        I frequently state the fact that Israel is a genocidal apartheid ethnostate that has “Jewish supremacy” as the basis of its existence and should be abolished, and I haven’t been banned anywhere on lemmy.world for it

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      Nothing. Private company can block whoever they want from using their service. Doesn’t impact section 230 protections.