There’s nuance. Obviously, vote for the liberal over the fascist, it’s not even close. However, the fascists are absolutely represented in government, while there’s no leftist candidates to speak of. Leftists have to plug their nose and vote liberal, while fascists gleefully vote republican.
Voting is entirely for loss prevention, because ultimately it absolutely impacts minority groups and people who stand to lose a great deal by a republican victory. However, leftists will not be able to move America to the left by voting.
That’s why grassroots movements and building up of parallel structures are so important for leftism, it cannot work within the confines of a 2 party Capitalist state, and must be built from the bottom up.
If it’s a constant race to the bottom… who cares. I would rather see us bottom out so that there is a chance that I could see real change in my lifetime.
I am not saying I am not voting for Biden, but running on the platform of “vote for us or bad things will happen” is a shitty platform.
It’s simple, vote 3rd party
Found the GOP shill
“If you aren’t one of us, you’re one of them!”
Wow Democrats are eating each other alive at the realization that they may not win. I’m a bleeding heart leftist that would really love if we don’t backslide into a fascist Cristo nationalist state but seriously this screaming anger that people aren’t agreeing with the milquetoast forced pick is definitely not gonna help.
Everyone said that the Republican party would split but no. Democrats will lose again by being angry and not supporting people once again.
A party that looks willing to change to better support the requests of their people is a lot more attractive than one that just wants to push the tower back together and keep playing the same games. And when competing against someone who is able to pretend the rubble is is a castle if you just whip hard enough then you are gonna be against a wall that doesn’t budge.
This look of spiteful anger isn’t going to get people to back the old man and that’s the hard truth that needs to be accepted.
Nobody will ever make me feel bad that Trump is going to win because I’m not going to vote for Biden. Just more blaming everyone but themselves.
One I saw how willing democrats are to sabotage candidates to push ahead “the safe pick” I just gave up. The Republicans went full steam behind their radical, won, committed hundreds of crimes, and are going to win again.
But Bernie sanders and Universal Healthcare? No fucking chance. We can deal with a little insurrection, just throw em in jail. But if everybody got Healthcare, stopped fighting each other, and were healthy enough to fight against the rich people? Can’t stop that.
Jeff needs to leave Xitter already
that’s easy to say. but finding an alternative is pretty difficult. mastodon is an option, but it’s to twitter what lemmy is to reddit. tiny userbase, and no discovery algorithm to push his opinions.
Have you ever tried just not going on the internet?
If the DNC wanted to, it could pass ballot & electoral reform. It doesn’t, because FPTP/winner takes all benefits them doubly - either they lose and can fundraise off “red team bad” messaging, or they win power and get their turn at the levers of power.
If you’re politically homeless on the right, anything even slightly to the right of median is preferential to ‘conserve’ the world you’re clutching to. Slowing or preventing change is your mantra politically, because you like the status quo today/previously
If you’re politically homeless on the left, you’re bullied in liberal unity under big-tent centrism, even though it’ll never effectively serve your core interests like right wing unity would. There may be some overlap, but good luck with actual legislative movement on LGBTQ+, unionization, campaign finance reform, alternative policing, etc
Under a different system we’d actually have coalitions and better representation on issues- especially topics with entrenched left-right collusion like foreign policy.
The DNC could have passed ballot and electoral reform under Obama when they had good majorities in both the house an senate, but they will not be able to in the foreseeable future (because they likely will not have strong majorities in both chambers for a very long time). I do agree that they probably wouldn’t, even if they could, unless the party changes drastically.
I do have (a tiny amount of) hope that “progressives” can gradually change the party. The Republican party has changed quite a bit over the last few decades; neocon under Bush, Tea Party under Obama, and now MAGA. So, it’s definitely possible to change a party.
DNC was sued over the Bernie Sanders 2016 politicial era. DNC is considered a corporation.
Justice Democrats were the “progressives” elected to change the Democrates, if you follow how they vote and talking points changed over the years, the party changed them not the other way around.
Sabby Sabs had the lawyers of the DNC Fraud Lawsuit.
DNC Fraud Lawsuit Lawyers Speak Out! Why Marianne & RFK Jr. Can’t Win (Interview Clip) [55:31 | May 15 2023 | Sabby Sabs]
Why Marianne & RFK Jr. Can’t Win
Because the former still won’t apologize for saying diseases were all in your head during the AIDS epidemic, and the latter compared COVID safety measures with Nazi Germany? RFK Jr is a certified antivaxxer as well.
Tell me, do these two need to earn votes as well, or does that only apply to Biden?
The video is much more than these two, the lawyers themselves even explain why they don’t like or would vote for any of them.
Any politician needs to earn the vote, and should be highly criticized instead of defended.
Many of us ex-Bernie supporters learn that the hard way, even if we have to learn it multiple times over until we fully understand US politics.
3rd party 2024
This might as well say Trump 2024 because that’s what you’ll get when you toss your vote away going 3rd party.
Eliminating the two party dynamic won’t ever happen from the top down, it’s going to have to happen with local elections and move it’s way up.
Or maybe it just needs to crash and burn already. It be awesome if I could see some change before the world itself burns down.
I don’t want Trump to get another term. And Biden putting on his big boy pants and doing popular things is our best chance to preventing a second Trump term. It’s retail politics, not rocket science.
There are tons of popular things he’s not doing. For one, he could just straight up order the decriminalization of marijuana at the federal level. And by that, I mean, banning enforcement of the law.
I get that the FDA could reclassify marijuana, but the real issue i think is that Congress needs to get on the ball and deal with legalizing it . There are laws on the books that have to be dealt with regarding sale and distribution and banking issues.
Couldnt that be done after decriminalization. Decrim will stop ruining lives and filling jails in an immediate way. People first, then economics would go a long way.
A lot of decriminalization has started with justice department changes. But honestly don’t we want something that will stick and not be taken away as soon as a different party is in charge?
I think we want both immediate relief for people and systemic change for laws.
I think there’s something wrong with a system that every 4 years have you pick wether you’d rather get repeatedly punched in the face or shot
Where am I being shot? Maybe it’s someplace kinda safe like the ass. I would take a bullet to the ass over being punched in the face.
This is not trump support, was a joke about how neither is a good experience. But whatever y’all
Just to name a few:
Continued support and funding to Israel with only the most tepid condemnation as people became more aware of their genocide against Palestinians.
busting the railway union which arguably, if their demand had been met, may not have had the disaster in Ohio. A move rivaled only by Regan
Despite being told that we had to fight for “kids in cages” nothing has actually come to fruition on that front
How come this genius is still in twitter?
