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Summary
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky revealed that 43,000 Ukrainian soldiers have died and 370,000 have been injured since Russia’s invasion began, marking a rare admission of the conflict’s toll.
He also claimed 198,000 Russian soldiers have been killed, though casualty figures from both sides remain unverified.
The update comes amid heightened fighting, with Russia suffering record monthly casualties in November.
Talks with French President Macron and U.S. Trump focused on a potential peace deal, with Zelensky emphasizing the need for international guarantees to secure lasting peace against Russian aggression.
It’s beyond discouraging to think that so many people are dying just because a little sociopath is attempting to compensate.
Most if not all wars starts with a little sociopath wanting to have more that what he has.
And it’s not like russia is doing any better either. 198k dead. The saddening part is, due to state sponsered news, a LARGE portion of russians SUPPORT the war. Somehow thinking it’s Ukraine’s fault for existing. They call Ukraine nazis, despite being led by a jew. They use the fact that Ukraine has a large russian speaking populace as justification to reunite. That’s LITERALLY a page out of Hitler’s playbook.
It just saddens me that so much death and destruction must come just to appease one man, and I use the word lightly, who doesn’t even give one shit about his own citizens.
And now Trumps “peace deal” is basically going to be “give russia everything”
It would be easier for you if it was so clear cut, but it isn’t .
You won’t have heard of the Donbas People’s Militias or the Donetsk People’s Republic, because it easier to think of it in terms of goodies and baddies .
There has been extensive collaboration with Russia, including far right Ukrainian “nazis”
But this muddies the water and no like like to think about it much.
It is absolutely clear cut.
Ukraine is a sovereign country. Russia violated its sovereignty.
We’ve heard of them. Funny how these “militias” ended up with advanced weapon systems like the Buk they used to shoot down a commercial airliner nearly immediately after Russia illegally annexed Crimea. Both Donetsk and Luhansk voted overwhelmingly in favor of Ukrainian independence in 1991.
Who’s “we” ? Are you speaking for the person I replied to ? Because Im not sure they’d be happy with the nonsense you are spouting .
If by “funny” you are implying they were surreptitiously armed by Russia, well, they are collaborators - of course Russia armed them. It’s where collaborators traditionally get their kit .
Equally obviously, the vote you’ve referred to firstly isn’t particularly relevant 20 years later and certainly doesn’t mean collaborators don’t exist, which is the point being made .
The comment I replied to implied that there were no “nazis” because they are led by a jew. I’m pointing out that there were thousands of far right Ukrainians that collaborated with Russia - shaking the conflict as multidimensional.
There have been thousands of far-right Americans who have, in some manner or another, been collaborating with Russia. It doesn’t make it reasonable or appropriate for Russia to invade the US, another sovereign nation (like Ukraine).