• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    MSNBC said on Saturday that police examining the bag and its contents found a jacket and Monopoly money, but no firearm.

    Thats a plant. They aren’t as close as they say they are. Also 60k as a reward for betraying your entire class? Lmao you better pay kingmaker money.

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      This. As a juror, you can absolutely vote to not convict someone if you think they’re being prosecuted under an unjust law. Just don’t mention “jury nullification” in front of a judge or prosecutors. They hate that.

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      I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist, but so many things seem off. Dude’s got an engineering degree, pulled off a cold-blooded assassination in broad daylight and evaded capture for almost a week… And then it turns out he’s an absolute idiot who keeps around a “ghost gun” in public, keeps around the same fake ID he’d used to book into the NYC hostel, and keeps a manifesto on his person?

      Part of me thinks this is some rando that’s gonna have to take the fall so that the rest of America believes that the police is all-powerful and can find any criminal. Hell, part of me thinks this perfect suspect is all made up.

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        I can’t imagine it’s particularly difficult to shoot someone, it’s not some work of genius.

        It’s pretty surprising he still had the weapon on him though.

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          It’s easy enough to shoot someone, but that was well planned out beforehand, executed in a way to cause maximum media stir while getting away clean…

          And then several days later dude keeps a manifesto AND a ghost gun on him while outside…

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        While I loathe conspiracy theories…

        I expected one of the following:

        • He would never be found. (unlikely)
        • He would be ‘found’ and ‘take his own life’ before ending up in custody
        • He would be ‘found’ but would have fled the country and disappeared.
        • He would be found and be a professional who had lost a loved one to UHC

        What happened is

        • very conflicting to the clear and concise actions we saw in NYC
        • very convenient to what they’re looking for, open and shut.
        • The pictures they provided weren’t consistent with the footage of the killing

        He ditched the bike, had and ditched a backpack, had been there for a week, didn’t think to change clothes? Went through the trouble to get an untraceable gun, didn’t think to ditch the gun?

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        It reeks of bs.

        My current head canon is that it IS him, but some very illegal government spying was used to find him. Claim an anonymous tip lead to him and then grab him. Then they conveniently find him in possession of an orgy of evidence a la Minority Report.

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          That sounds completely plausible. Three letter agencies have ridiculous amounts of intel. They for sure know which building and apartment I’m commenting from and I’m a foreigner on a pseudonymous website. Plus there’s the however-many eyes agreement for when you need to get intel but can’t spy on your own citizens.

          Honestly I’m reminded of that time when Russians found that guy with 3 copies of The Sims when the security services were obviously told to find him with 3 sim cards so he’d look extra guilty

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        I hope some way to donate to his defense fund opens up.

        I wish I could take his consequences so he could remain free.

        I’m a coward that takes the beatings and whinges on the internet, he is a man who won’t accept defeat, even under entrenched oligarch occupation.

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      The fact that each picture of him has been someone different doesn’t give me a lot of faith they know his name lmao.

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          Here’s a better one. NYPD doesn’t know what the fuck they’re after.

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            So did this guy have a team of decoys running around with him or did the stars align to explicitly fuck that CEO over? lmao

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              It’s New York. That look is probably very common. Hence why our hero chose it as a disguise.

              Also he probably quickly changed his clothes in central park. So a possible thing is that he also changed his hoodie and had a different mask.

              But having four different coats? Hard to believe.

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                But having four different coats? Hard to believe.

                It wasn’t a man, it was 3 kobolds in a trenchcoat, so it’s perfectly plausible

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                  With the goblins in kahoots! My lord we need to set a bountry of 30 gold pieces! Fetch the greatest team consisting of a mage, a fighter, a thief, and some comic relief buffoon who will end up saving the day despite his uselessness throughout the journey up to that point!

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              My take is that the cops fed raw surveillance data into their trusty Crime Computer and fully trusted the result. It’s a super common silhouette when the daily high temp is in the 30s. Lol.

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          Yeah, that one is officially not from him.

          And the police has been officially never wrong about it, and has been looking for that one guy to interrogate only, maybe ask where he brought his jacket or something like that.

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          Yeah there’s also one from within a bank, but it’s totally a different person

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      I feel like that’s possibly a prelude to setting up a scapegoat. You can’t let people think he got away with it.

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          They gotta prove it was him. Also it sucks. Really hard. Like gun charges? What happened? How did they figure? If I did something with a gun like that I’d have to do my best to get rid of the gun (disassemble and destroy the parts first).

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            He gave the cops a fake ID. That’s probably grounds for searching him.

            He was concealing a gun without an LTCF. The supressor isn’t considered a firearm in PA, but I’m going to guess he didn’t have a proper tax stamp for it from the ATF.

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    i heard about the story but i dont know any of the details - why do people like this guy/hate united healthcare ceo can somebody explain?

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    Guy should just surrender and go to trial. I bet they will find it hard to get 12 person to find him guilty.

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      Fuck off. If he surrendered he will be killed. There is no way the billionaire class would allow a peasant like us to try to harm them and survive. They will also demonize him and drag him through the mud and claim he is a pedophile rapist who killed for pleasure.

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        IIRC, Snowden wasn’t eligible for a jury trial, because he worked for the NSA and, so it they were pushing for a secret court-martial trial. Who knows if Snowden would have actually done it, but I remember he said he would return to the US if it were a jury trial.

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      Juries are specifically selected to avoid people capable of critical thinking, and people knowledgeable about jury nullification.

      If it goes to trial his chances are slim. If he knows what’s good from him, he’s already in a foreign country with no extradition treaty, or halfway across the country in a remote section of wilderness laying low for the next few months.