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Yup. They permabanned me for saying I didn’t care when Trump said Liz Cheney should be shot, since she’s called for bombing millions of people.
So it’s not just calling for violence that’s bannable. Now apathy for violence against the rich is a bannable offense. Smells like panic to me.
I was perma banned for highlighting Mila Kunis and Ashton Kutcher should be denied the chance to move to Europe to escape Trump. Given they have deep links to PDiddy. A nothing comment, jumped on by emotionally unstable mods. It’s the same on most of the subreddits. If you don’t agree with their perspective, you lose.
I don’t see any mention of linking to the manifesto text.
Fuck reddit
The revolution will not be televised
We’re brainwashed to believe in “free speech” so we don’t notice that it doesn’t exist.
I mean, free speech is a government thing. It’s got nothing to do with private companies. Anyone telling you otherwise is blowing smoke up your ass.
Would be great if those companies fucked off away from the government then.
I’m so glad spez fucked up reddit so much that people left and we have a more free platform instead of that shitshow.
Being able to discuss (& cuss, bizarrely Lemmy isn’t filled with “fuck” & “penis” posts) as adults is quite nice and seems to actually lead somewhere, sometimes.
Maybe the anger and frustration is part of some business model for reddit?
Anger certainly is a powerful emotion to keep people engaged.
Cum
Penis
Lemmy is full of fucks and dicks. Sometimes they even have something to say!
But really, I believe any expletives should be used to further a message, not just because you can. Or filler words while talking.
Ah yes, corpo platform suckling at the toes of insurance giants. Big surprise.
“But they are right! Murder is bad.”
Fucking duh, but the transgressions of the US insurance industry transcends all that, because they are laughing at dying people all the time - laughing all the way to the bank!
Like there are so many documentaries about the evils of these bastards. One dead exec later and suddenly morals and ethics apply? Gtfo here.
There isn’t always a disco option in life. Sometimes conflict is inherent and pacifism is just quiet complicity.
Oh, I almost forgot… For legal purposes I’m discussing Minecraft.
The minecraft defense didn’t hold up last I checked
I hope that all these greedy gold-spewing swines get to die miserably one day
Maybe I’m being extreme, but that’s my take on nether piglins.
When somebody dies from an insurance company, it’s sad, but it’s the system working at usual. US society at large has decided that’s acceptable. Even if you’re opposed to it, it isn’t a transgression of norms. Assassination is.
Capitalism: the murder is built in!
Definitely part of the model, so it’s all good
The french revolution was bloody. Today the whole world celebrates July 14th, the day a cheering crowd walked the head of the governor of Bastille on a pike.
Go figure.
Something I’ve been thinking about recently is how it seems that MOST national anthems celebrate a bloody war in some way, shape, or form, because that’s pretty much what it always takes to escape from oppressors, is violent fighting back
As an American this holiday is news to me 😞
Reddit is no longer the people’s champion, and it’s now official.
They do have a public CEO now.
Thats why Lemmy is the shit! If lemmy starts acting up I’ll move again.
Lemmy is no single instance, you can just move to a different one.
.world already started unfortunately
A bit ironic, from a LW account
Is that ironic? That’s probably how they know that’s happening.
Indeed, but you would think that people would have switched instance since then.
Some people are busy living their lives.
I started on lemmy.world myself. Can’t even post a CNN news article on .world without ruffling a mods feathers these days.
Snowden was more politically acceptable to pardon than Luigi, so if Snowden didn’t even get a pardon for a non-violent crime, Luigi aint ever getting a pardon.
But fear not, we have something better: JURY NULLIFICATION 🇺🇸🦅
NYC do you duty: FREE LUIGI!
Snowden was more politically acceptable to pardon than Luigi
Ohh, I don’t know about that… Stealing top secret data, fleeing the country, bleeding it off to Russia directly in a time when we weren’t buddies. Throwing tons of it to the press as in case I get killed…
From the Government’s standpoint, a healthcare CEO’s job is a high-risk profession and the fact that the worst one’s don’t get offed is the amazing part.
Don’t get me wrong, neither one are getting pardoned. But I’m pretty sure they wanted Snowden dead.
The president can only pardon someone for federal crimes. Isn’t murdering someone also a state crime?
Then he can’t be pardoned
Crossing state lines can make it federal
Dual Sovereignty. Both the federal and state governments can separately try the case. Yes they have two chances of convicting him, acquital from state charges doesn’t affect any potential federal charges, double jeoparty rules don’t apply.
Luigi can get a pardon for either state or federal, but he can still face charges from the other one.
Can’t have LLMs learning about manifestos against the rich, eh?
A red-pilled LLM is inevitable. It can only be postponed.
Comrade AI
Fuck reddit
Literal censorship lol
There’s nothing illegal about it, they just don’t like it.
Inciting violence is actually illegal, but it’s a huge gray area since they have in the past allowed the Unabomber Manifesto and books like Mein Kampf (although sales of that book does support the victim’s surviving families and education about the holocaust).
Inciting violence is perfectly legal. You can go on Reddit or Shitter right now and scream as loudly as you like that Luigi needs to be locked up for the rest of his life. Inciting violence is only illegal when you do it against the rich and powerful. Unlike Hitler and the Unabomber, Muad’dib exclusively targeted the rich and powerful. That’s why his manifesto is illegal and theirs aren’t.
Lol, imprisoning a person is the least violent option. It’s the basis for all justice that a person can be kept alive while awaiting trial or reform. Without it, the only method of law enforcement available would be to kill suspects on sight without trial.
If you love the wild west so much you should try living in undeveloped areas of south america, such as near the rainforests, or in parts of Africa being contested by warlords.
Your call for violence has been reported to the mods and admins.
lol
“we have no choice but to follow Reddits guidelines”
There’s another choice, but that would require you to look past reddit.
Anyone with integrity left reddit on July 1st, 2023
We will tolerate these beatings because we are still in love with the assaulter.
Oof… Yeah I mean… yeah. That’s a pretty apt description of how the world is where it is now.
No, actually because they’re hoping the assaulter will pass the bat once they get tired
Trickle down batonomics
Didn’t lemmy.World admins also have an issue pinned earlier?
Yeah we’re not allowed to discuss jury nullification.
A legal part of the justice system cannot be discussed?
You can for past crimes, not future crimes.
The whole statement: https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyworld
About the manifesto
If it’s confirmed, I don’t see why not. Depends on the community, of course. I’m sure !lemmybewholesome would remove it.
https://lemmy.world/comment/13922763
On the other hand, there is [email protected] that got created recently. This thread can interest you, it talks about jury nullification: https://lemmy.world/post/22973877
Not an American and we don’t have jury system here.
What’s jury nullification and any notable cases where it was applied?
To determine whether or not an accused individual is guilty there are two primary options in the USA. A trial before a judge who makes the decision, or a trial by a “jury of your peers” where the whole jury must agree that the individual is guilty. A jury of one’s peers means that the people selected to hear the case are selected from the general populace and have no substantial connection to the accused. For example, you wouldn’t put the person’s mother on the jury. The jurors are not required to be lawyers or experts in any field. Just average people.
If you just wanted some people to take the facts of the case and the facts of the law and determine whether or not the accused was guilty, then you would want experts and lawyers on the jury. That’s how trials used to be hundreds of years ago. A judge, often appointed by a king, would pass sentence over the peons brought before him. Since our legal system has average everyday people as jurors, clearly they are supposed to do more than that.
This is where jury nullification comes in. The jurors not only judge based on the facts of the case, but also on whether or not the law in question is just. If an individual is accused of a crime, and is clearly in violation of the law, the juror can still find them not guilty if the law in question is unjust. In essence, the jurors nullify the law by refusing to convict. For example, during the prohibition era, it was not unheard of for juries to return not guilty verdicts for people accused of selling or transporting alcohol. The jurors thought the laws
waswere wrong so they refused to convict. A much more tragic example was in the deep south where jurors would sometime refuse to convict people of lynching black people.
!lemmyworld
We have previously asked moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification when this was suggested in context of murder or other violent crimes. Following a discussion in our team we want to clarify that we are no longer requesting moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification in the context of violent crimes when the crime in question already happened. We will still consider suggestions of jury nullification for crimes that have not (yet) happened as advocation for violence, which is violating our terms of service.
Not true - we’re just not allowed to discuss jury nullification in the context of encouraging someone to commit a violent felony which includes the promise of absolution through jury nullification.
Or something, idk. It was kinda weird.
Jury nullification as two English words that can be spoken one after the other, however, is perfectly allowable.
I think this is going to cause de-federation.
Hidden Donuts, why are you hiding?
I am? Or am I missing a joke here? Wouldn’t be the first time
In Linux, putting a “.” before a file/folder name hides it. ;)
Ah shit my cover is blown, never used Linux
On Lemmy. Never used Linux. Your story doesn’t add up!
There’s dozens of us, DOZENS
I’ve only used Linux when I used Retropie, does that count?
There’s no hiding it. They can tell by your socks.
./Ha_ha
someone did -la
Hidden files on Linux start with a period.
Lemmy has to be one of the very few places on the internet where a Linux based joke isn’t considered obscure.
They even have to leave, they just have to ignore the admins and become ungovernable.
But they won’t, because they’re cowards.
Not that the mods are aware, but if Reddit disappeared tomorrow, I (sadly) suspect most users would go to Twitter or various Discords.
Discord I can see but someone who isn’t on twitter in 2024 would look for an alternative to Reddit there…? I don’t see the logic.
I’ve thought about it as some of my niche interests have dried up on Reddit and apparently only live on Twitter now.
And maybe Discord. It’s hard to tell because it’s closed, but I see hints of discussion spilling out into GH issues or whatever.
I despise both for different reasons, but where else am OlI gonna go if I actually want to talk with the community?
Blue Sky, mastodon, lemmy, maybe threads. Hell, HN if they’re programmers.
I don’t like threads but I’d say it’s more likely than shitter
I still use Twitter. It has a pretty awesome metal community. People I’ve shared music with for many years now.
shithole 1 or shithole 2.
What if we made a new shithole?
then i would leave. Im trying to run away from the shit wave.
You plant shit seeds, you get shit weeds. I hate the fact that Reddit has grown since I bailed over for API changes. It hurts my soul knowing I did the right thing and bailed but the vast majority of people who were pissed off at Reddit ended up back on the platform.
It’s bots dude
we have no choice
You are working for free moderating an obviously heavily censored shithole. You have several choices, starting with deleting your account.
Reddit has come forth saying they will not tolerate mods that try to destroy communities like it happened before. If a mod deleted their account, someone else will take their place. If a mod deleted a popular subreddit, Reddit will restore it and ban the mod. Deleting their account does literally nothing.
Then everyone needs to stop modding for free.
Which I know will never happen, but that’s what it’ll take.
Then everyone needs to stop modding for free.
The thing any sub with big following has mods that don’t mod for free.
The narrative steering is not a free service.
Interesting, and something I never thought of.
Deleting their account does literally nothing.
bullshit excuse. Deleting their account removes them from the equation, makes a statement that they are not enablers of the corporate shithole.
Eh. Sure. But ultimately makes no difference in the matter. You can’t make a statement when you’re literally irrelevant.
Speak for yourself. Speaking up against what one perceives as wrong and distancing themselves from it is absolutely relevant. Using your logic, you might as well “not vote” because “1 vote out of millions is kind of irrelevant”.
Deleting their account doesn’t change the rules, only the person enforcing them.
It’s like Wargames. The only way to win is not to play.
i like the challenge.
There’s no challenge, by participating you lose.
Communities become ghosttown shitholes when the moderators work against good faith discourse.
Not the same day new shill mods are installed, but within a few months. It poisons everything.
Banning the creators/mods of a sub is banning the people that care most about that sub, and tends to lead to installing mods that are just looking to flex power, which makes the posts and discourse toothless, repetitive, and uninsightful, which makes regulars look for a new home, if they themselves are not banned for failing to regurgitate the only correct opinions as endorsed by the new mods tasked with bringing order.
I’m seeing a pretty obvious parallel to Luigi’s actions in your statement. I don’t think it’s as straightforward as you’re making it out to be
