• Iheartcheese@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I mean this is high school. She got on the squad and nobody knew she was trans? Did she just transfer there?

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      My take was that she joined the squad when presenting male, and then came out later.

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        I feel like that’s probably the most likely scenario yeah. She might not have even known she was trans when she joined it. Getting closer to the other girls might have been the thing that helped her realize she didn’t want to just be part of the cheer squad she actually wanted to be one of the girls.

    • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      She clearly got on the squad while presenting male. Male cheerleaders exist? “When she came out” was when the other girls on the squad made the pact.

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          You underestimate the benefits of puberty blockers and hormone therapy on “passing”.

          Someone in high school that’s had access to puberty blockers before secondary sexual characteristics become prominent is already going to present fairly androgynous because that’s what puberty does, it extends sexual differentiation.

          If the person then also has access to hormonal treatment, they’ll be experiencing what is essentially the exact same development of secondary sexual characteristics as they would if their own body was producing them.

          Hormones aren’t going to grow reproductive organs that aren’t there, but when it comes to things like facial hair, hip and shoulder width, breast development, that’s going to be visually congruent with however the person would have progressed had they been born with the endocrine system that matches.

          Now, if a trans person progresses into puberty before having access to treatments, then you’ll have an ever increasing degree of body changes congruent with their assigned gender.

          So, no, them having eyes isn’t some kind of automatic trans detection system.

          Hell, some folks, they don’t have a ton of differentiation even once they’ve completed puberty, so you can have adults that start hormones without any other treatments end up “passing” without any visual cues.

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          Yup. We have a librarian here that’s trans, and the only reason I know is because I have eyes (and they transitioned after getting the job). Oh, and we’re in a pretty conservative area, and I’ve never heard or seen anyone having any issues with her, though I’m sure it happens.

          Oh, and that librarian rocks. We couldn’t find one of our holds, and it turned out it was stuck in their book elevator thing which had broken down that day, and they went out of their way to fish our books out for us. It’s completely unrelated to her gender identity, I just thought that was really cool.

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        Because it’s a fucking school. It’s a kind of tight-knit group even if it’s a lot of people. People would notice some dude disappeared the same day a new girl started.

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          Lol that is not how it works. You don’t turn into a girl over night one day. You might be confused about what coming out as trans means. It doesn’t mean she transitioned, it just means she told people she is trans. She may have presented as a girl for a long time before that already