• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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    8 hours ago

    As a general rule I just don’t trust what anyone says about North Korea, the whole thing is so propagandized from every angle you might as well be trying to figure out the average yearly income of the people on North Sentinel Island.

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      As a general rule I just don’t trust what anyone says about North Korea,

      Ah, it’s like arguing with a conservative and then hearing them say, “But who knows what’s REALLY true?”

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          Yes, it’s exactly what the topic is like. There isn’t a goddamn topic in existence that isn’t ‘famously propagandized’ to someone.

          It’s not any better than the people exercising arbitrary skepticism about the Soviet Union or the PRC.

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                6 hours ago

                You’ve claimed to be an anarchist before.

                Having trouble keeping your positions of convenience straight, huh?

                While beefing with the idea that you should apply critical thought to claims made by both nations and media. Weird.

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                  You’ve claimed to be an anarchist before.

                  Feel free to quote me, because I’ve never claimed to be an anarchist.

                  Having trouble keeping your positions of convenience straight, huh?

                  Maybe improve your reading comprehension before making accusations.

                  While beefing with the idea that you should apply critical thought to claims made by both nations and media. Weird.

                  As a general rule I just don’t trust what anyone says about North Korea,

                  Critical thought is arbitrary skepticism, I see.

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                    5 hours ago

                    An anarchist that argues that all claims made by capitalist states and media should be accepted without critical thought or fact checking?

                    Please.

                    Forgot to swap accounts, huh?

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      7 hours ago

      Can you show me some propaganda from the anti-North-Korea angle, and why it isn’t true?

      I think there is pro-North Korea propaganda, and there is the truth which is horrifying and some people claim is propaganda. I’m not sure that much of the anti-North Korea stuff is propaganda. I’m open to being shown that I am wrong about that, though.

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        One, I didn’t say I believe “pro” North Korean propaganda. Just that there’s so many lies I don’t accept anything as true at face value.

        Two, sure, as long as you show me how to prove a negative.

        Which is actually possible, as it happens, but it’s a lot more work than I’m interested in doing for a topic I literally just said is beset by propaganda on both sides. If you want to believe every criticism you hear about an objectively fucked up neo-monarchy is true, go for it.

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          I am saying that I don’t believe that it is beset by propaganda on both sides. I believe it’s beset by propaganda and lies on one side, and the other side is mostly just the truth.

          You’re not required to be interested in showing me why I’m wrong, of course. I was just curious.

          Edit: Also… how in the world is “can you show me some propaganda from the anti-North-Korea angle” asking you to prove a negative? I’m the one claiming more or less a blanket negative, and politely asking for one counterexample if you feel like providing one.