• SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    I don’t know why but the language used in this article feels almost… dismissive. I might be overthinking it, though.

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        10 months ago

        There might be a reason for that - it could be possible that they are trying to provoke a response from the Russian AF to reignite the discourse in Western mainstream propaganda outlets.

        I doubt this could actually work at this point, considering the fact that American puppeteers and their EU vassals are starting to admit that “project Ukraine” is going down fast, and the same propaganda outlets have been grooming the public for another Afghanistan-like defeat. Hell, they are now willing to openly admit it was Ukraine who shelled Donetsk, again.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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          It’s possible, but they have been doing this stuff for a while and Russia never reacts. The fact that mainstream western media is now openly reporting on this is probably the most notable aspect of the whole thing. I completely agree that they’re trying to shift the narrative now and throw their proxy under the bus.

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        The OG Nazis used a considerable chunk of their limited resources toward the end of the war on building Vergeltungswaffen, literally revenge weapons. These had very little military benefit and were mainly intended to terrorize the enemy civilian population. It’s standard fascist MO to do this shit when they lose a war.

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    10 months ago

    I’m not bringing this up with the lib I work with; he’s actually defended indiscriminate shelling of Donetsk, trying to claim that perhaps the people in Donetsk were rioting.

    EDIT: I also explained to him that Ukraine wants the land, but they don’t want the people, and he saw nothing wrong with that, stating that if that was the case, the ethnic Russians should just leave. I hate what’s happening to people’s grasp on right and wrong today.

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      10 months ago

      Most Liberals genuinely don’t think Donetsk exists or that it’s only Russian soldiers camping out there.

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        The fact that the majority of the population there is ethnic Russian is only evidence that they’re all born KGB sleepers in Putin’s multi-generational plot to corrupt the purity of Ukranian blood.

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      10 months ago

      The liberal conception of rights prioritizes property ownership over human life, so the Kiev regime has a “right” to the land it wants, but the people living there don’t have a right to be alive.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      Weird how that works isn’t it, the same people who can’t shut up about Taiwan are all of a sudden against separatism when it comes to Donetsk. It’s as if what they actually care about is expanding western sphere of influence as opposed to democracy or self determination.